By drastic I also mean support, or some kind of big event or lifestyle shift. I definitely don't mean some guy locking you up somewhere. I'm sure there is people who just did it with no external support and nothing big happening just by deciding they're gonna stop, I just don't think it is very common. I don't think users have to hit rock bottom, on the contrary, it is much more difficult if that happens. Which is why I said in my other post it is much better if you are battling addiction and you have a home, as opposed to battling addiction while being homeless. That would be an example of the drastic change that could happen for example, finding a home after being homeless. I guess just saying "drastic" and leaving it at that wasn't a very good way to phrase that.