I'm sorry I posted another dot world thread today and clearly this was the one

  • anaesidemus [he/him]
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    5 days ago

    Tankies defend Russia's invasion of Ukraine

    lol no, we just know why it happened and how it's gonna end

    • CrawlMarks [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      I mean, I don't like Russia cause they are neoliberals but it is hard to fault the logic there.

    • FromPieces@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 days ago

      Mind if I check my lib-brained understanding of the Ukraine war?

      NATO was inexorably pushing to have Ukraine join their club--which would represent an objective strategic nightmare for Russia--and Russia was negotiating alternatives with Ukraine. US got called in for our expertise at fucking up the peaceful relations of other nations. US did something to halt peaceful discussions, NATO progressed their expansionist agenda. Russia did a pre-emptive attack on Ukraine aiming to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO by making it into a part of Russia.

      Something like that?

      • anaesidemus [he/him]
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        5 days ago

        NATO was inexorably pushing to have Ukraine join their club

        Russia asked to join NATO at one point, that would have ruined the purpose of NATO, which is to fuck over Russia whoever is in charge

        --which would represent an objective strategic nightmare for Russia--

        there was an ongoing civil war in Donetsk and Luhansk involving pro-ukraine fascist militias, some of which were then made part of the Ukraine armed forces so they would have been instantly article 5'd

        US did something to halt peaceful discussions

        the Minsk agreements were meant to buy time for Ukraine to militarize further, as per Merkel, peace was never the goal

        Russia did a pre-emptive attack on Ukraine aiming to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO by making it into a part of Russia.

        yes, but also to protect the people who were under constant attacks in Donetsk and Luhansk and to disarm the Ukrainian armed forces