• hotcouchguy [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If there is an actual attempted coup, it would be like the "Kornilov affair", meaning that a) all left groups should fight against it, and b) assuming we win, left groups will look strong for fighting it, and libs will look weak for not preventing it in the first place.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Realistically though the US left isn't big enough, organized enough, or armed enough to even overcome Chud militias, never mind whatever elements of the military and police side with Trump.

      Drawing from history, the best bet is something like what Mao did. He didn't fight the Japanese head on, but waged an effective guerilla war mostly independently of the Nationalists while building a political and military base. Sub in the libs for the nationalists and trumpists for the Japanese.

    • Rev [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The big difference though is that Russia had a combat party - the Bolsheviks, (together with an even larger Social-Revolutionary party making very similar demands) who enjoyed very wide-spread support among the armed forces. Socialism was "in the air" as well, for lack of a better term, as much of the populace supported some sort of hard leftist reforms. None of this exists currently in the US. Arguably the armed forces part will never exist.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      How do you even fight a coup in a country this big? Which elected official would I even yell at? The capitol is further away from me than Moscow is from Berlin.

      • kristina [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        a lot of the industrial base is in large cities, russia actually had a similar analog for this, after all they are very similar to america in terms of population distribution. the revolution began in the far spread out cities, mostly the big capitals like petrograd, moscow, and so on. cities like vladivostok even created revolutionary councils but the whites controlled the rural areas and quickly crushed them with american help due to how far away it was from the large metro areas in western russia. so if you live in say, the great plains and maybe the south, shit will probably not look so hot. but the pacific and east coasts would likely light up quickly and organize separately. the heartland would likely be the base of reactionary forces, especially the rocky mountains.

        the soviets won the civil war by spreading their control outwards from the cities and into major, important rivers. the mississippi would be a big deal just like it was in the past civil war.

        now, if its a simple coup that doesnt escalate into civil war, you can expect america to be very similar to latin american / western countries that had been couped, actually. coup followed up by massive civil action which either escalates into full blown fascism or a delayed ousting and leftists taking over.