Democrats hate Sanders types not because of the threat to capital, as these folks aren't capitalists but are PMC, and in turn its the threat to their personal grift within the democratic party that upsets them.
Every time libs moan about Sanders, they mention "populism" and "the cult of personality".
As for their hate of populism, they really just fucking loathe poor people in general. And as for the cult of personality, they seem to ignore entirely that they built cults of personality around Obama, Hillary, RBG and now Joe Biden.
They absolutely hate the left more than they do fascists. If you lurk on r/politics, that's a good insight into how libs minds work. They spend so much time talking about "anti-Trump Republicans". These past 4 years, they have managed to make John McCain and Mitt Romney sound like heroes. Fucking JOHN BOLTON became one of their favorite people after he spoke out against Trump. Because they believe in the system and status quo, they want the other side to agree with them and reach across the aisle. They aren't obsessed with The West Wing for nothing. That show is how they wish government worked.
It also ties into how easily they whitewashed Bush. They were never angry about the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan. Nor were they mad about how he handled hurricane Katrina (Louisiana is a RED STATE, fuck everyone who died and those of us who nearly drowned). Libs were just mad that it wasn't Team Blue doing those things.
Nah all of the stuff you're talking about is just internal DNC talking points. These folks just spend too much time watching MSNBC. It's all just political hackery devoid of beliefs, they want to win over former republican voters so they can't just shit on those people.
The reason DNC staffers hate Bernie is because he wasn't going to include them as insiders. Paul Krugman wrote about this after the nevada caucus among other related think pieces.
There are certainly some ideologue liberals out there, but those folks work for the cato institute and don't exist anywhere else in the broader realm of american politics.
Yeah, it's kind of a weird thing for me with Bernie. The old man wasn't even really a threat to capital, but seems like they wouldn't even grant any concessions. I guess the have no reason to.
But I also think the insurgency of Bernie was a threat to the usual coronation of lib elites. I dunno. It might not matter much, but it's kinda fascinating to me.
I guess what I'm saying is there's a difference between Jeff Bezos not liking Bernie and Neera Tanden not liking Bernie. The former is because of his threat to capital, the later is because he'd end a huge part of the DNC consultancy grift.
No, I understand what you mean, sorry if I was unclear. My only thought on it is that for someone like bezos, why not support Bernie. I could imagine if the grossest abuses of capital were limited, you could stave off the guillotine and whatnot. I only mean that Bernie is a soft reformer type dude, not so much a threat to capital.
As far as neera tanden, Killary types, totally agree. We, the great unwashed, just aren't really in their tea party lib world or whatever, and if those people were beholden to us as a donor class...I honestly don't even know what that would mean.
This is well said. When I first realized that the dems hated us more than the fascist, it was like a jimmy neutron brain blast for me.
Democrats hate Sanders types not because of the threat to capital, as these folks aren't capitalists but are PMC, and in turn its the threat to their personal grift within the democratic party that upsets them.
Dems hate Sanders cause they hate the left.
Every time libs moan about Sanders, they mention "populism" and "the cult of personality".
As for their hate of populism, they really just fucking loathe poor people in general. And as for the cult of personality, they seem to ignore entirely that they built cults of personality around Obama, Hillary, RBG and now Joe Biden.
They absolutely hate the left more than they do fascists. If you lurk on r/politics, that's a good insight into how libs minds work. They spend so much time talking about "anti-Trump Republicans". These past 4 years, they have managed to make John McCain and Mitt Romney sound like heroes. Fucking JOHN BOLTON became one of their favorite people after he spoke out against Trump. Because they believe in the system and status quo, they want the other side to agree with them and reach across the aisle. They aren't obsessed with The West Wing for nothing. That show is how they wish government worked.
It also ties into how easily they whitewashed Bush. They were never angry about the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan. Nor were they mad about how he handled hurricane Katrina (Louisiana is a RED STATE, fuck everyone who died and those of us who nearly drowned). Libs were just mad that it wasn't Team Blue doing those things.
Nah all of the stuff you're talking about is just internal DNC talking points. These folks just spend too much time watching MSNBC. It's all just political hackery devoid of beliefs, they want to win over former republican voters so they can't just shit on those people.
The reason DNC staffers hate Bernie is because he wasn't going to include them as insiders. Paul Krugman wrote about this after the nevada caucus among other related think pieces.
There are certainly some ideologue liberals out there, but those folks work for the cato institute and don't exist anywhere else in the broader realm of american politics.
Yeah, it's kind of a weird thing for me with Bernie. The old man wasn't even really a threat to capital, but seems like they wouldn't even grant any concessions. I guess the have no reason to.
But I also think the insurgency of Bernie was a threat to the usual coronation of lib elites. I dunno. It might not matter much, but it's kinda fascinating to me.
I guess what I'm saying is there's a difference between Jeff Bezos not liking Bernie and Neera Tanden not liking Bernie. The former is because of his threat to capital, the later is because he'd end a huge part of the DNC consultancy grift.
No, I understand what you mean, sorry if I was unclear. My only thought on it is that for someone like bezos, why not support Bernie. I could imagine if the grossest abuses of capital were limited, you could stave off the guillotine and whatnot. I only mean that Bernie is a soft reformer type dude, not so much a threat to capital.
As far as neera tanden, Killary types, totally agree. We, the great unwashed, just aren't really in their tea party lib world or whatever, and if those people were beholden to us as a donor class...I honestly don't even know what that would mean.