Get ready for countries like the US to "take on the responsibility" of altering the world's climate and fucking it even further.

How anyone can think that our world will not severely fuck "geoengineering" the planet is insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSu5sXmsur4

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    They’re not going to stop because you don’t want their stuff.

    No, they won't, but that isn't an excuse for unsustainable consumption. If you make the decision to be more wasteful than you could be, then you are to blame too. Most people in the west could easily reduce their consumption and many choose not to. I don't know why you want to defend selfishness.

    Without completely restructuring the entire global economy

    That should be the goal.

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      There's no ethical consumption under capitalism

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        There are different degrees of exploitation. This was about luxuries and wastefulness though.

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      you aren’t being more wasteful than you need to be if you buy a ticket for a plane that would’ve ran empty either way. you aren’t increasing pollution in anyway by participating in the plane trip bc it would took place with or without passengers as we have seen in corona

      • Corbyn [none/use name]
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        Unpopular and not lucrative routes get cut all the time. Covid is an exception because of governments bailing out airlines and rules that required airlines to have some flights to keep their spots.

        Those were few flights, the overall flights dropped more than ever before: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104036/novel-coronavirus-weekly-flights-change-airlines-region/

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          on how many fronts are you defending this individualist, reactionary take now? last night when i started this sub-thread it was just contra-me. but now comrades too have stepped in to help and you still can’t see the err in your theory.

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            on how many fronts are you defending this individualist, reactionary take now?

            Only two right now. And it is as individualist as saying that murdering (done by an individual) is bad and deserves blame.

            but now comrades too have stepped in to help and you still can’t see the err in your theory.

            You making an argument based on wrong numbers, while the reality proves me right, is not helping. One person wasting less is one person wasting less. Because of overproduction it would make no difference, but my argument is that this does not justify participation in absurd consumerism. That is literal all I have said. I want all the regulations and governments seriously fighting the destruction of the planet over, or in addition to, individual action. We only differ in that I put blame on individuals as I see them as more as victims of capitalism and advertisement.

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              you put blame on individuals because you see them as victims of capitalism? do you put blame on rape victims too?

              perhaps put the blame on not the victim but the attacker