https://twitter.com/the_vello/status/1321435262023536641
Feels like (the good parts of) old chapo again, drop an AOC post and go grab some lunch... come back and there are over 60 replies :)
https://twitter.com/the_vello/status/1321435262023536641
Feels like (the good parts of) old chapo again, drop an AOC post and go grab some lunch... come back and there are over 60 replies :)
Ok and again I am BEGGING you to read where I directly say AOC is not good.
But god you in your fucking ivory tower. You know what’s not happening? People rising up in New York while the NYPD has a SIX BILLION dollar budget. You know the only way to change that? Either rising up and physically dismantling it or legislating that money away and enabling the EXACT CONDITIONS YOURE TALKING ABOUT.
You know how we are trying to do away with that budget? By ensuring we have representation on the inside ready to work to get rid of it, something that isn’t happening if you have Giuliani or Bloomberg running the city.
Me: “Here are how material conditions in our local community have improved since and because of AOC, allowing for us leftists to directly organize in ways we weren’t before”
@RandomWords: “BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MATERIAL CONDITIONS?!?!???!?"
my 'ivory towers' got a fuckin staircase and a welcome mat you stupid fuck. elevate yourself. you said specifically that "the system can" which is only true if enough people get pissed off at it's existence, and the entire point of this post which your replying to is to fucking boost up fucking aoc, which you're helping to promote with this fucking bullshit. you know how e're going to do away with a budget? is that the fucking goal? are we doing local revolutions now? is that the fucking point that we're going to try to achieve? cause taht shits going to get immediately squashed.
AOC serves a fucking purpose in congress or she wouldn't be there. she a fucking token progressive, just like bernie was. they serve a fucking purpose. a fucking "manufactured consent" of representation.
Local organization leads to revolutions you absolute imbecile. You cry and whine and moan about material conditions and when I tell you they’ve improved you deflect and make it about AOC. Fucking newsflash, political offices hold immense sway and power and when they’re not being used to undermine the left like they have through all of American political history the left is able to organize and increase the power base of the left.
I WANT TO REMOVE AOC FROM THE LEFT. How many damn times am I going to have to tell you this? AOC IS NOT GOOD but she is better for the left than anybody else and it has improved material conditions for the left. We aren’t electing MLs yet, we aren’t dismantling our political system yet, so why is it bad that we do what we can strategically to build up the left?
Do you understand how shortsighted you are being? This is why I’m saying you live in this ivory tower. We are on the ground doing praxis and telling you it is only possible because material conditions have improved as a direct result of AOC and you’re telling us that’s bad. What is good enough for you? What’s your plan? Because I’ve not yet seen it.