• EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I think it will get to a point where the state can't meet people's need to the degree that the struggle becomes one for basic, immediate survival. I think those conditions can drive organizing out of necessity, like how anticolonial struggles in Cuba and Vietnam became socialist revolutions when the imperialist atrocities became too much for the people to bear.

    • Sarcasm24 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I agree -- I've said for a long time that successful revolutions can only take place when people don't have enough food to eat.

      but the bourgeoisie can use that against us, even if only as a last ditch effort. whether they would like to or not, they can just do a UBI that keeps people fed and sheltered, if only temporarily. obviously that would be a concession on their part, so they're not going to do it except in dire circumstances, but that is a tool they could use, and frankly I think it would successfully snuff out a lot of the revolutionary potential we're talking about.

      because the US government have a vast surplus of resources to draw from, unlike cuba and vietnam, we're fighting a different type of enemy than those revolutionaries were fighting, so i don't think we can fall back on "hunger will inevitably lead to revolution." we're going to have to inspire people to imagine a better world than that, and that to me that feels uniquely impossible in america, or at least almost impossible

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        A lot of things can change and we cannot perfect everything with dialectical materialism lol. Any number of scenarios could happen in the near future, some might weaken our position, some might bolster it. We can't know so we should continue the work of organizing and propagandizing.