Literally what was I waiting for, that shits so good :marx

  • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Its a fkn terrible point given how 9 million people starve to death each year while food is buried to keep its market price high

    • QuickEveryonePanic [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      He's not saying that's good. He's saying if the forces of capital would be to just stop producing now 80% of the world population would not be able to feed themselves. That's 5,600,000,000 people starving. This is a fact we will have to reckon with. This does not mean capitalism is good. It means we're way deep into it.

      • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        This is literally the same argument every anti communist or revisionist has made since 1917

        To not "rock the boat"

        Actually Existing Socialism has proved itself a much more efficient system than capitalism. The fastest countries to industrialise were Marxist-Leninist ones that achieved in 10-20 years what took the Western capitalist states 100-150 years to develop

        Harvey is garbage and I'm convinced the only people allowed to practice Marxism in bourgeois Academia (in the US) are Marxists that spread nonsense like a firehose like Harvey, Wolff etc

        • QuickEveryonePanic [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          That's not how I read the argument he's making at all. I would urge a little caution before completely discarding some of the most powerful voices we have on the left, even if they're not left enough for your taste. I think calling a man garbage who has been spending his entire career railing against capitalism and teaching Marxism is very unwise from a strategic perspective. I think that's doing a service to the bourgeoisie and we can find more constructive ways to critique points we don't agree with.