This is bad FYI

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    4 years ago

    Serious question do you think this would've worked on Americans even if the government was all in on a lockdown (messaging, mandates, adequate social support, etc)

    • kristina [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      weld american doors shut and put that police brutality to good use to keep the chuds inside

    • BladeRunner [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Your problem is to simplify China’s anti-epidemic struggle to "a lockdown"

      But the fact is:

      A central committee responsible to the people, not to the stock market

      A central government that has always been responsible to the people,only in that way you won people’s trust

      A public medical system rather than private

      A compulsory education for all people, so that most people has a basic knowledge of biology

      A materialistic social atmosphere that respects science instead of religious beliefs

      Communist Party members loyal to the people from all industries, so that the best doctors and engineers from all over the country will form teams and risk their lives to provide medical support and mobile cabin hospitals in Wuhan

      Neighborhood committees and village committees responsible for providing all services and help to the community during the lockdown(The welding incident did happen, but there was a neighborhood committee member who was responsible for food delivery and emergency rescue)

      From the beginning, tell everyone about the risks of this disease, tell the people "We need your help,staying at home is also fighting for country" instead of deceiving people “this is flu"

      • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        The reason socialist countries were successful was entirely that they already have meaningful controls around the movement of people in the country. There were liberal capitalist countries that handled well too, and the biggest similarities was having populations just being isolated from the virus by default.

        • BladeRunner [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          massively restricted freedom of movement

          You have overlooked one point: "massively restricted freedom of movement" requires government and the public respect for science and facts South Korea is a good example. Their government respects science and uses technology to track movement. When religious organizations started gatherings in ignorance of science, the government took strong measures to stop gatherings, that is how you beat the epidemic

      • CommieGirl69 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        i'm still puzzled as to how the fuck has absolutely NO country in europe done the right thing yet

            • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Not sure about New Zealand but "South Korea" fucked up by ending their lockdown too soon and letting antimaskers assemble at megachurches.

        • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          The Schengen area complicates things a ton, the best way to deal with the virus is to shut down freedom of movement between different cities as much as possible.

          Italy even though they had it rough in the beginning hasn't really serged, Germany seems fine, ect.

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      The only way the US would've succeeded is if we closed borders between states. This is a big reason why the US failed to handle it as well as Europe and why Europe has it so bad now. More people moving around makes the virus worse, China massively restricted freedom of movement around the country and that shit just works.

      It's easy to give complicated answers for why some countries did better than others, but totally independent of testing, mask wearing, or any other related thing, the above is easily the most important.

  • PlantsRcool [any]
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    4 years ago

    So we obviously knew how to handle this virus because we saw china do it months before, a hard lockdown then contact tracing. I intuitively get why that was unacceptable in capitalist countries but how can I explain that to lib friends?