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    • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      He keeps burrowing further into the "cancel culture" track. There's a right wing podcast I monitor because a buddy of mine loves it, and I'm real nervous about him going full chud (called "the fifth column", it's basically two "80s guys" finance/media types who LOVE their own farts), and Taibbi is scheduled to be their guest.

      To give you an example of the problems with their podcast, EVERY episode (of the 6 I've checked in on) contain anywhere between 5-20 minutes of complaining about the 1619 Project.

    • Churnthrow123 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Russiagate really broke Taibbi's brain and made him into a quasi-conservative.

      He was also good on Chapo, people just lost their minds because he had the extremely accurate that police abolition is a terrible, unpopular idea.

      • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]M
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        he had the extremely accurate that police abolition is a terrible, unpopular idea.

        fuck off lmaooooo

        • Chapo_Trap_Horse [none/use name]
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          When Bernie got torpedoed and the George Floyd/BLM protests started, tons of "anti-woke left" folks brains melted. Taibbi, Chapo, Greenwald, even Brooks to an extent, nobody could shut the fuck up about White Fragility and Cancel Culture like a bunch of old men yelling at clouds. Not to say Robin Deangelo isn't a grifter or the performatively ultrawoke PC lib-left isn't grating as fuck, but it's fascinating to see the mask slowly get pulled back on the anti-woke-left-to-fash pipeline. As utterly fucking idiotic my center left lib friends are, there really is something to that bullshit horseshoe theory, if one of the tips of the shoe is the antiwoke left. It's a honeypot for budding leftists who still can't unravel and unpack their white supremacy/ableist/transphobia shit.

          The whole content-o-sphere for dirtbag leftists started really narrowing into an echo chamber - shit started feeling like a fucking op after Bernie lost and they were supposed to turn their attention to black people.

          • JamesConnollysStache [any]
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            anti-woke-left-to-fash pipeline

            There's an absolutely fucking long way between bitching about cancel culture and embracing fascism. Those are not the same thing. I'm not saying it's impossible for somebody already inhabited by brainworms or whose ideology is non-existent to go that way, but for most that's a stretch.

            An actual real-life example of left-to-fash is somebody like Christopher Hitchens. A hero of the liberal left, turned far-right warmonger. I see a lot of similarities between early Hitchens an Greenwald, but I'm not buying that being "anti-woke" or being critical of looting is evidence of a similar turn to the right.

            • Chapo_Trap_Horse [none/use name]
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              I probably shouldn't call it a pipeline. I don't mean going from a card carrying leftist to putting on a Nazi uniform. I should say it's a beartrap. A honeypot. An apathy death ray. A swarm of cackling, terminally online, irony-poisoned leftists who want healthcare but don't actually do shit and end up being as fash-enabling as the libs, enthralled to inaction and complaining as sport. And then you throw in the perjoratives and slurs they use and the fake-tankie talk just to feel edgy. The anti woke part.

              There are chuds that hang out in those spaces.

            • hippiecow [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I agree, I also wonder if people like Hitchens and Greenwald are outliers (in the sense that for Greenwald at least, he more or less seems to march to the beat of his own drum). Though I suppose that Greenwald has consistently held weird politics while Hitchens showed that left-to-fash progression over time.