China has had 85,915 total cases ever
Like I said in the other thread. The CPC are Absolute Chads.
Edit: what I find remarkable about the US is that they didn't even manage to flatten the line after the first wave like the rest of the world. This isn't the 2nd wave. This is just the 1st wave cresting or something.
Yeah they started talking about that scenario last week :/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/24/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html
My state did a half-assed lockdown in the spring when we were at ~100 cases per day. We're at near ~2,000 cases per day now and most things are basically back to normal with no lockdown in sight. :agony-yehaw:
masks do not do ENOUGH to prevent the spread of covid. i wish people would stop convincing themselves that if everyone put a mask on, it would all be alright.
I love that the debate is now a) we (as individuals) should do the bare minimum, even though it's obviously inadequate, and no other help is coming vs b) we should actively make the problem as bad as possible.
Definitely a good sign for how our society will solve the other existential crises that are rapidly approaching.
Ok someone correct me if I'm wrong but if we just did a hard china style lockdown for one month + no interstate travel for a while we could literally end this by new years right? Like their would still be be restrictions but we'd be in the best situation since March
Wow I never really processed the numbers like that, 30,000$ each person damn. We could have been long done with this pandemic by now
WHERE'D THE FUCKING MONEY GO?
Well I believe the fixed capital and stocks of the zombie firms mostly. Dunno what economic theory could've predicted that :thinkin-lenin:
Ok thanks. And the only reason we can't is because doing that would make the money sad right?
short answer yes, long answer yes but also the capitalist order will not allow the working class to realize that their jobs are bullshit
Tbh I think most people are so dumb they'd never make that realization even after the lockdown...
I don't even think it would make money sad. Isn't China the only country projected to have positive GDP growth this year?
Good point, it did make their GDP drop when it started tho back at the end of last year. So does capitalism just care too much about the short term?
I guess it depends on the company. It was reported today I think that Amazon has had record sales the past couple months so I guess they'd benefit from a shutdown because people stay home and order from them more. Restaurants and gyms on the other hand would suffer until the shutdown ended.
Goddamn, I did not know this was the worst it's been yet. Glad I have a work from home job but feel awful for everyone who doesn't have this privilege
My job was work from home as needed. CEO (who is based at a branch in a different state) made the mandate starting 2 weeks ago for everybody to be back in the office like normal.
I'm glad that we live in a market system where the most qualified people rise to the positions with the most responsibility and power.
It's a pattern in other countries too. It's probably because most places aren't working which would include government offices, doctor practices and stuff so fewer tests are done and if of the ones done a fraction will just report the number for the Monday total instead. Someone who wants to get tested will probably also just push it to Monday and try to enjoy what little weekend free time they have.
I don't know how the US does it but here they retroactively add cases to past days when they come in so by like Tuesdays the spike between Friday and Saturday evens out a bit. It might just be that the CDC just rolls over the weekend number to Monday instead so the spike stays. That's why it's better to look at a 7 day average. That's what's advised on all the coverage here.
We're at 50k confirmed infected per day here in France, with a new full nation-wide lockdown (starting ~4 hours ago) that should've been implemented two weeks ago. The neoliberal ghoul that is our president has finally tried somehow to impose remote working procedures on private companies, though, which was an unexpected surprise - though the very starved and limited amount of controls will probably make such a thing relatively moot in terms of impact.
I was talking to someone who had swallowed the wuhan flu thing, showed them that covid actually originated in Barcelona and then showed the success that China had with covid and they just kept saying that the CCP hides the real numbers so I'm like yea so does the U.S and they said no that's different and I asked how and they said it's to keep people from panicking and stopping consuming and I just stared at them.
it's not quite as cut and dried as started in Barcelona afaik, there was a sample hit in Barcelona, and also hits in early 2019 in Italy and Brazil, but everything is being peer reviewed still I guess:
https://www.darkdaily.com/studies-finding-remnants-of-sars-cov-2-in-sewage-suggest-covid-19-may-not-have-originated-at-wuhan-market-some-scientists-dispute-the-findings/
but it makes blaming China a lot sillier
It's highly likely those studies are gonna be retracted tbh. Covid appearing months before in highly dense areas without causing spikes in deaths or pneumonia really doesn't make sense. It's more likely they found fragments of another coronavirus.
China could fake their coronavirus numbers, but they can't fake import or economic production numbers. 1-2 years from now (I guess less, now), we will be able to see for sure. I think I saw a headline back in June that VW was still getting the same or greater amount of orders from the Chinese market.
