Re: China struggle sessions, I've gotten into a few of them here, taking the "Adrian Zenz may be a grifter, China might not be committing a literal genocide, but they're still doing Islamophobic racial profiling on a mass scale, that's grotesque, and it's sad you can't admit it" position. I often end up with a better ratio than my interlocuters. I think the people in the "I will defend China forever, always" camp are very loud but don't have nearly as much support among the userbase as they claim.
This is a good take. China seems to be handling radical islamism x1000 better and more humanely than places like the U.S, france, etc., but that isnt saying much.
While I think this is fair, I think there's a level of critical support required, or even a degree of critical neutrality - at absolute worst someone might argue China is as bad as western imperial countries, but most of us don't live in China but those western countries.
These are all really damn good points that I hadn’t considered previously. We’re obviously not going to budge on some of those aspects as a site (no left anti-communism, no cia propaganda, neutrality on china), but the trying to educate anarchists thing really stands out to me as somewhere we could improve. There’s a bullshit “aNaRcHiSts jUsT dOnT kNoW tHeYrE MLs yEt” trope that I think is toxic.
Criticising Leninism is not left anti communism tho and a lot of users act like it was and some prominent users are def only here to push their agenda on others.
And it really is a turn off when i am being "lectured" on my own country's history by westerners for example because i dared to question the party line.
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Re: China struggle sessions, I've gotten into a few of them here, taking the "Adrian Zenz may be a grifter, China might not be committing a literal genocide, but they're still doing Islamophobic racial profiling on a mass scale, that's grotesque, and it's sad you can't admit it" position. I often end up with a better ratio than my interlocuters. I think the people in the "I will defend China forever, always" camp are very loud but don't have nearly as much support among the userbase as they claim.
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This is a good take. China seems to be handling radical islamism x1000 better and more humanely than places like the U.S, france, etc., but that isnt saying much.
While I think this is fair, I think there's a level of critical support required, or even a degree of critical neutrality - at absolute worst someone might argue China is as bad as western imperial countries, but most of us don't live in China but those western countries.
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Do we have a wiki? It would be useful for things like this, theory libraries, etc.
TBF this is the article i'd have everyone read about the issue.
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Criticising Leninism is not left anti communism tho and a lot of users act like it was and some prominent users are def only here to push their agenda on others.
And it really is a turn off when i am being "lectured" on my own country's history by westerners for example because i dared to question the party line.