here is the link, its locked by the way beware of the quasi-fascists that are the western europeans
edit: its really easy to attract the islamophobes in this chat
here is the link, its locked by the way beware of the quasi-fascists that are the western europeans
edit: its really easy to attract the islamophobes in this chat
Lmao bro is this how you treat trans comrades as well? it's super easy to respect a muslim's desire to not depict the prophet because it's disrespectful, much like it's easy to use someone's preferred pronouns. imagine respecting people lmao
What kind of consistency is this idea based on? That whenever someone holds someone else in high esteem you have to respect that? So by this logic could Trump supporters call you bigoted for drawing mean pictures of Trump?
There's not hundreds of years of cultural context built up around the idea of artistically depicting Trump, this isn't even remotely a fair example.
It’s really less about the specific concept of drawings, and more so just... maybe respect religions that are minorities. Like will you die if you don’t post something incredibly offensive to an already targeted group?
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fuck off, being trans is not a fucking religion. eat shit
Being religious precludes you from basic respect
-this clown i guess
no, but i do not respect religious rules and i absolutely never will and should not be expected to.
Listen man I'm not a believer either, i'm not saying you should be following any religious doctrine. I'm just saying there's no material difference between respecting someone's cultural or religious sensibilities. You're alienating religious comrades for what seems to be no reason other than an imagined, arbitrary distinction between religion and any other way of life.
I could use your same logic to say that i should be able to use the n word because i arbitrarily decided that the set of social rules around why i shouldn't don't apply to me, and i shouldn't be expected to follow them.
You kind of are saying that he needs to follow their religious doctrine, though.
The prohibition against artistically depicting Mohammad isn't even in the Qu'ran, for one thing. Even if it were, he still wouldn't be beholden to it. He could draw Mohammed to his heart's content, much like he could commit any other microaggression against any other group of people.
But why? For what purpose would a non-believer do that, knowing full well it would cause a fuss among a people a billion strong, unless that was the point? The only reason you would go out of your way to do this, as many reactionaries have over the last two decades, is to be edgy and offensive on purpose. "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
Nobody has ever tripped with a pencil in hand and fell on a piece of paper accidentally drawing the Prophet and accidentally posting it online happening to fall on their keyboard to spell "this is my depiction of the prophet Mohammed", it isn't even something you could justifiably say was done in ignorance unless you live under the world's largest rock. It's something done by right wing islamaphobes to purposefully enflame religious tensions, and my dear comrades are dragging me out of my peaceful lurking to justify it. Is it really that hard for leftists to respect people?
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you literally are though, you're saying that i should feel bad about people drawing muhammad because muslims think it's wrong to do so
once again, fuck off
Drawing a mean picture of a Muslim is islamophobic. Respect Muslims of course. But raping a child, advocating slavery, etc. This does preclude you from respect and no one else can save you from that.
It is clear that your outlook on Islam and Mohammed isn't based on a wide breadth of knowledge on the subject, which isn't particularly surprising or unique. This is okay though, because I've been noticing that there has been a concerted effort from some Muslim users on this site to try to reach out and inform comrades about misconceptions like what you've mentioned here. I saw a post by u/Saif, moderator of the new c/islam, regarding another user's perception of Aisha ("raping a child") that might clear that up, for instance.
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