been feeling like shit last few days. anyone have any reasons not to be fully doomer? (preferably important stuff and not individual level things like "my cat is pretty") (though by all means do share cat pics as well)

  • KiaKaha [he/him]
    4·
    4 years ago

    Straight up become a China stan.

    Yeah the fall of the USSR sucked, but the future could be a hell of a lot darker.

    • wackpatrol [none/use name]
      16·
      4 years ago

      so whats youre take on the uighur camps, mass censorship, more extreme drug / court penalties?

      sorry china isnt the answer

      also downvote me i dont give a fuck, but these are legitimate things

      free hong kong losers (not saying im into the capitalism but at least give them a chance to not be literally stolen like theyre trying with taiwan)

      • KiaKaha [he/him]
        2·
        4 years ago

        Uighur camps

        Pragmatic and relatively humane approach to counterterrorism, at least compared to alternatives.

        Mass censorship

        See how Glastnost turned out for the USSR? See how, after colour revolutions, life has gotten qualitatively worse? That’s why.

        drug penalties

        Mostly a cultural hold over from the opium wars.

        • wackpatrol [none/use name]
          7·
          4 years ago

          so when trump snatched people off the streets months ago and we were all pissed and etc, it was a pragmatic and relatively humane approach to counter terrorism?

          so the censorship is cool and justified because its some other countries fault?

          and harsh death penalties is cool because a ancient opium war?

          im just saying like if this was a thing here, which some of it is, and is getting worse which we always hate on, why is that cool and a justification for things that literally we accept no justification for here

          • Awoo [she/her]
            2·
            4 years ago

            and harsh death penalties is cool because a ancient opium war?

            Harsh death penalties? Uighurs? You are misinformed.

            • wackpatrol [none/use name]
              4·
              4 years ago

              ok do you live under a rock or are you just such a tankie that you literally cannot process reality

              just curious do you like Israel? why / why not

              • Awoo [she/her]
                1·
                4 years ago

                Re-education is a process of raising their skill sets so they can work better jobs and thus improve their material conditions. This then results in the dropping of the extreme ideology because they actually have good lives to live.

                There is absolutely no death-penalty involved in the RE EDUCATION of a small number of the at-risk population there. You are horribly informed, I can only assume you've gotten your information from reddit comment sections in liberal communities and never taken any time to verify it among socialist spaces, even /r/socialism, a radlib/socdem space, will take you to task on how badly informed you are .

                Get informed. It's incredibly embarrassing that even the libs over there are better informed that you are.

                • wackpatrol [none/use name]
                  4·
                  4 years ago

                  actually no, i literally have chinese friends living there that actually are stuck dealing with these problems, but hey you wouldnt know that while youre busy talking shit right?

                  but hey keep talking shit and whatever

                  • Awoo [she/her]
                    1·
                    4 years ago

                    You're being a reactionary.

                    That was not even enough time to glance over what was sent to you, let alone enough time to watch or engage with it.

                    If you won't actually take ANY time to learn what we have all taken the time to learn then you are a reactionary. Pure and simple. Either take the time to get properly informed and learn or get out of leftist spaces because you're not a leftist. We don't take positions and then endlessly defend them without actually doing the homework, do the homework, then we'll talk further. Stop being such a massive child. Take the 20-30minutes you need to actually learn the leftist side of this topic.

                  • MaoStan420 [none/use name]
                    ·
                    4 years ago

                    i literally have chinese friends

                    Oh yeah? What are their names? ch*ng chong? Ling ling? yeah right, lib ass mf

      • MaoStan420 [none/use name]
        1·
        4 years ago

        so whats youre take on the uighur camps, mass censorship, more extreme drug / court penalties?

        way to swallow western propaganda lib

      • Awoo [she/her]
        2·
        4 years ago

        free hong kong losers (not saying im into the capitalism but at least give them a chance to not be literally stolen like theyre trying with taiwan)

        It is literally a Chinese city operating on the same system it has operated on for decades. There is nothing to "free".

        • wackpatrol [none/use name]
          4·
          4 years ago

          so the liberation of our brothers and sisters over there fighting a oppressive regime means nothing?

        • wackpatrol [none/use name]
          8·
          4 years ago

          sort of like how the US is or?

          im just saying theyre even more entrenched in the way it is there with cultural norms dating since the feudal age, and i hate the us too but i dont get how this website sees this shit and goes

          oh well

          lets stan china

          like get off chinas nuts wtf

            • wackpatrol [none/use name]
              4·
              4 years ago

              technically every country unless time freezes is "a work in progress"

              and ok i seriously dont like the us

              dont even live there

              but come on you have to admit china has problems that people on here blatantly look past and at least we have some level of lgbt rights and etc that i admit while things could be better and etc and it seems like people here are combating "imperialist" takes when i bring up these fair points with chinese stan imperialism and it gets weird when we are somehow all "leftists"

              us does have problems, china has problems, etc but if you cant call something out thats a problem