if the dreaded second american civil war does break out, its not going to be socialism v fascism like so many fascists and leftists seem to believe. This conflict, much like the revolutionary war, will be a bourgeois revolution. The only real sides to this fight will be military and some police loyal to biden and small parts of the military and untrained and underequipped Trump militias. This is mostly if biden wins by a large margin, if trump decides to cheat the election, libs will probably end up conceding to him and shurgging their shoulders. any kind of armed socialist movement will do nothing but draw the ire of normal people and intelligence agencies, which is like exactly what you don't want to happen if you want to build a real left wing movement in the united states. idk moral of the story: who the fuck cares, fighting for biden is about the same as voting for him. use whatever crisis that arises to advocate for communism, or you can join the biden militias/national guard if u wanna dome nazis idc
What is this meme of intracapitalist conflict I'm seeing pop up. I see absolutely no evidence of this, the capitalists have far more in common and far more solidarity than you can possibly imagine. There will absolutely not be any conflict between the military lol. No amount of LARPing or lone wolf acts of violence is proof of an actual civil war.
Remember, the American Civil War was an existential war between capitalism and fuedalism, there was a material basis to it. What material basis is there here?
US slavery was not feudalism, please update your bloody information. the bourgeoise breaking from feudalism in america in it's own tiny way was the war of independence---but even then, feudalism never meaningfully existed in the US
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Exactly. There were major class contradictions between the southern planter aristocracy, slaves, northern industrial capitalists, and western homesteading yeomen farmers, and it all came to a head in the civil war. End result is slaves become sharecroppers or convicts afterwards for a large part, and the great migration afterwards in reaction to such conditions.
@Bread_In_Baltimore wrote one up yesterday
FWIW I agree with you, I think the post I linked mistakes failing industries/verticals/whatever for a split in the bourgeosie, when capital's always vultured the most over-leveraged members of the class during every economic contraction. Those in failing areas that aren't over-leveraged will just move their capital to one that isn't.
I think folks mistake lib capital's cooption of id-pol as meaning they're on the other side of a conflict with the trump/fash crowd, but that couldn't be further from the truth. Scratch a liberal's an axiom for a reason.