if the dreaded second american civil war does break out, its not going to be socialism v fascism like so many fascists and leftists seem to believe. This conflict, much like the revolutionary war, will be a bourgeois revolution. The only real sides to this fight will be military and some police loyal to biden and small parts of the military and untrained and underequipped Trump militias. This is mostly if biden wins by a large margin, if trump decides to cheat the election, libs will probably end up conceding to him and shurgging their shoulders. any kind of armed socialist movement will do nothing but draw the ire of normal people and intelligence agencies, which is like exactly what you don't want to happen if you want to build a real left wing movement in the united states. idk moral of the story: who the fuck cares, fighting for biden is about the same as voting for him. use whatever crisis that arises to advocate for communism, or you can join the biden militias/national guard if u wanna dome nazis idc

    • Qelp [they/them,she/her]
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      being a coward is when you don't wanna sabotage the movement

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        The movement doesn't matter if fascism wins.

        I don't really give a shit how you justify it, if it actually came down to a war then you better fight cause otherwise you're liable to end up in a stadium anyway.

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          lol implying that neoliberalism is anything other than fascism with a rainbow paint job. there's literally no way to justify fighting for DIET Fascism™ vs fascism, when you could literally just work to build local left wing movements

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            This is the sort of batshit ideology that let the Nazis win.

            Neoliberalism is evil, it's not quite as bad as fascism.

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              there are two holes in front of you. one is 10,000 feet deep and the other is 9,999 feet deep. what you are saying is that we should just jump in the 9,999 ft hole instead of like, oh idk, not jumping into any thousand foot deep holes

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                The extra foot is the difference between your average shitlib and Kyle Rittenhouse or Timothy McVeigh.

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                  one group will just ensure that you die to systematic violence, the other will call you slurs when they line you up at the wall. both are murders. hope this helps

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                    Yes but one sort is significantly slower.

                    Especially when the fascist murders are piled on top of worse versions of the same systemic violence.

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                      damned if you do, damned if you dont. text book abuser language

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                      Lmfao go pitch that bullshit somewhere where liberals are. Not buying it. X to doubt.

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                  Those two are little in the greater scheme of things, its a foot of difference between Obama and Trump, and that's an argument not worth having.

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      Fuck off liberal I ain't voting for Biden and I sure as hell won't join Biden's Army

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        So don't.

        You really think civil war in America would stay as 2 factions divided by political party? At this point?

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          Of course not. But the two largest factions would be the far right backing Trump and the dems backing Biden. The third parties would all get crushed in a day, maybe less, if we tried to fight. That's not to mention how many anarchists nowadays are openly calling to shoot MLs on sight or round them all up to enable their non-removedy socialism, so we'd be EVEN weaker than we already are thanks to infighting