From a post on /r/leftistvexillology/

"Capitalism, fascism, reaction; beat the three and humanity is free!"

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"Of course, the three arrows representing the struggle against capitalism, fascism and reaction have quickly found their way into other social democratic parties."

:stalin-stressed: :stalin-stressed: :stalin-stressed:

That election poster that gets thrown around alot is just that. An election poster where the socialdemocrats were trying to position themselves as the preservers of the democratic republic(which should be remembered, had not existed for long). It's not the only way to interpret the symbol.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leftistvexillology/comments/dx5jky/three_arrows_without_the_big_lib/

What do you think? What do you associate the arrows with? I always assumed it was 'down with monarchism, Nazism, and capitalism' before reading that thread. It's amazing how fast the meaning of the symbol was co-opted and altered (although notable that not everyone recognizes it as such).

  • Amorphous [any]
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    4 years ago

    Iron front is socdem anti-communist "both sides are the same!" shit, always rubs me the wrong way when i see people calling themselves socialist using that fuckin symbol

    • asaharyev [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The logo was not originally an Iron Front thing, though. And there's some hope that it could be wrestled back from them.

      I think it is morphing in modern usage as a broad antifascist symbol, ignoring done if the Iron Front baggage. If we can kill The IF ties, it's a very useful symbol.

      • Amorphous [any]
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        4 years ago

        the symbol itself is socdem anti-communist "both sides are the same" garbage though

        i dont understand why the symbol would be useful at all

        • asaharyev [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Because it's easier to draw and use than the red and black flag.

          The symbol itself began as just anti Nazi. It was adopted by the SocDems and the Iron Front. There's no inherent anticommunist or "both sides" in the symbol.

          • Amorphous [any]
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            4 years ago

            i did some research, and idk where you got this information from. The symbol was thought up by this guy called Sergei Chakotin who found a swastika crossed out in chalk. He was literally working for the social democrats and the iron front at the time, and the symbol specifically represented social democrats against nazis. and that quickly transformed into social democrats against nazis and communists, as in the famous poster.

            Granted, there was a brief period in which it was explicitly anti-fascist, but there has never been a time when it was not associated with socdems / the iron front, and those same socdems are the ones who used it for anti-communism.

            come up with a new fucking symbol