I encourage you to consider that the majority of the people we refer to as libs have never had their material conditions threatened by a crisis, personal or national or otherwise. They will panic when the messiah does not come.
You must not remember the 2009 recession all that well and how Obama bailing out the banks and wall street didn't lead libs to panic at all. He's still their messiah whom they've built a cult of personality around.
The 2009 financial crisis and subsequent recession was frankly far too abstract and removed from most people's lives past a blip in their 401ks. Do you think the current situation is in any way similar to the recession in severity / scope of impact to assume that "libs" will react in the same way? Will bends before it breaks, but you are arguing that libs have both the strongest and weakest wills side-by-side. That they are fastitiously devoted to capital, able to ignore their material conditions, and yet rely wholly on predetermined figureheads to make their decisions. I don't buy it. The proletariat and petit bourgeois (by and large your libs) are far more complex and varied than you give them credit. And it's not about radicalizing, to your post above. It's about acknowledging that people have the ability to change their mind, and accepting that they can have agency in a system that is designed to deny them agency.
The 2009 financial crisis and subsequent recession was frankly far too abstract and removed from most people’s lives past a blip in their 401ks.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one on this site who watched their family suffer through the 2009 recession and had their own hopes and dreams destroyed from it. It was one of the most radicalizing moments of my life, yet according to you it didn't really do anything.... You must live quite comfortably, I take it.
The proletariat and petit bourgeois (by and large your libs) are far more complex and varied than you give them credit.
Who do you think voted for Trump back in 2016? It was the petit bourgeoise small business tyrants. Trump got most of his support from the middle class. I can drive right now into the suburbs and find all the support for Trump in my local area, where I don't find any signs in yards with trailer parks. The liberal media created a myth that it was the "white working class" that voted for him, despite the overwhelming evidence that it wasn't.
Most working class, lower income households DON'T vote and there is a lot of data from state to state that prove this. They don't have candidates that represent them, yet people constantly call them libs for some reason like you are implying here.
It’s about acknowledging that people have the ability to change their mind, and accepting that they can have agency in a system that is designed to deny them agency.
Don't worry, libs will change their mind. They went from pretending to be anti-war back in the Bush era to suddenly backing the Iraq and Afghanistan wars once Obama was inaugurated. The first people they change their mind on will be the BLM protesters, whom they already hate but will be able to gleefully call for their imprisonment after Biden wins.
When the libs are screaming for Biden and Harris to jail protesters indefinitely, you'll be on here with a bunch of other posters arguing "wait, we can still radicalize libs".
I encourage you to consider that the majority of the people we refer to as libs have never had their material conditions threatened by a crisis, personal or national or otherwise. They will panic when the messiah does not come.
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You must not remember the 2009 recession all that well and how Obama bailing out the banks and wall street didn't lead libs to panic at all. He's still their messiah whom they've built a cult of personality around.
The 2009 financial crisis and subsequent recession was frankly far too abstract and removed from most people's lives past a blip in their 401ks. Do you think the current situation is in any way similar to the recession in severity / scope of impact to assume that "libs" will react in the same way? Will bends before it breaks, but you are arguing that libs have both the strongest and weakest wills side-by-side. That they are fastitiously devoted to capital, able to ignore their material conditions, and yet rely wholly on predetermined figureheads to make their decisions. I don't buy it. The proletariat and petit bourgeois (by and large your libs) are far more complex and varied than you give them credit. And it's not about radicalizing, to your post above. It's about acknowledging that people have the ability to change their mind, and accepting that they can have agency in a system that is designed to deny them agency.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one on this site who watched their family suffer through the 2009 recession and had their own hopes and dreams destroyed from it. It was one of the most radicalizing moments of my life, yet according to you it didn't really do anything.... You must live quite comfortably, I take it.
Who do you think voted for Trump back in 2016? It was the petit bourgeoise small business tyrants. Trump got most of his support from the middle class. I can drive right now into the suburbs and find all the support for Trump in my local area, where I don't find any signs in yards with trailer parks. The liberal media created a myth that it was the "white working class" that voted for him, despite the overwhelming evidence that it wasn't.
Most working class, lower income households DON'T vote and there is a lot of data from state to state that prove this. They don't have candidates that represent them, yet people constantly call them libs for some reason like you are implying here.
Don't worry, libs will change their mind. They went from pretending to be anti-war back in the Bush era to suddenly backing the Iraq and Afghanistan wars once Obama was inaugurated. The first people they change their mind on will be the BLM protesters, whom they already hate but will be able to gleefully call for their imprisonment after Biden wins.
When the libs are screaming for Biden and Harris to jail protesters indefinitely, you'll be on here with a bunch of other posters arguing "wait, we can still radicalize libs".