source in the comment section

Also uh hot take, but Sparta bad. Frankly all of ancient greece was a shitshow. Critical Support for the Achemenian Empire in their struggle against greek colonizers.

  • lad [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    How is sparta not innovative yet also the origin of all totalitarian governments? You cant be both.

    also my pet peeve is these greece/rome/sparta/etc worshiping dimwits who cant help but force comparisons to the modern world when they are irrelevant. oh yes agreed sparta is like singapore and vietnam good analysis! morons

    • Circra [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I really wish I could remember the book, but there was someone who talked about the Athens/Sparta myth and how America has used it.

      The idea I think is that immediately after the revolution, the US set itself up as Sparta, a militaristic, energised power struggling against a decadent and degenerate naval power like Athens - the UK. The myth becomes useful again during the Cold war only now the US is a democratic, free naval power just like Athens against a paranoid, militaristic dictatorship of the USSR.

      It was kinda interesting to see how myths that where honestly way off when they were first written down are still used as a sorta template and a desire to return to some daft golden age. And of course how easily those myths are twisted to fit the current circumstances.