Note: I'm just a white guy who read the Autobiography of Malcolm X when I was younger and did some additional reading. If I've got any details wrong or I'm wildly offbase please call me out. I have thrown around the Yakub bit myself. When a Hexbear called out the bit as racist I had to do some self-crit about it. Here's a very short explainer to give some backstory on where the bit came from.

The very short version

  • Yakub is a figure in Nation of Islam mythology derived from the Hebrew patriarch Jacob

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  • In NOI mythology Yakub used eugenics to create white people from ancient black people

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  • due to the horrible methods Yakub used and his evil intentions white people are incapable of empathy and compassion and can only do evil

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  • 4Chan found out that the NOI exists a few years ago

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  • 4Chan created the (CW: 4chan bullshit)
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"We were kings" meme, usually with "we were kings" deliberately misspelled and accompanied by racist imagery

. This was inspired by both NOI beliefs and Hotep beliefs

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  • At some point the Chapos found out about the 4Chan meme and began ironically adopting the NOI position in response, referring to white people as Yakubian devils or variations of that

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  • It stuck around on Hexbear

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  • It's not appropriate for white people to be making jokes about a black religious and political movement

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  • The NOI mythology was created during the 1930s when eugenics was a popular concept. It inverts contemporary white "race science", essentially reversing the roles of white people and black people under a similar, religiously influenced psuedoscientific narrative.

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  • The NOI call themselves Muslims. Their religious beliefs are a very idiosyncratic mixture of Christian, Muslim, and original beliefs. They were not closely related to Sunni or Shi'a Islam

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  • When the founder of the NOI died in 1975 his son and successor disbanded the organization and re-formed it. The new organization went through several names before settling on the American Society of Muslims. The American Society of Muslims rejected most NOI beliefs, becoming much closer to mainstream Sunni Islam

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  • After the NOI was disbanded Louis Farrakhan and a splinter group formed a continuation of the NOI. This sect is notorious for it's racial superiority ideology, anti-semitism, homophobia, and generally being reactionary jerks

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  • No one really likes the NOI. They have little mainstream support but continue to have some cultural influence

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  • Trivia - Louis Farrakhan probably ordered the assassination of el-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz, also known as Malcolm X
  • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    A couple other points: the NOI is much smaller in membership than many people think, at 50,000 members.

    Much of this rank-and-file is relatively boring people with strange beliefs, which could be said about many religious people.

    While anti-whiteness and antisemitism is purportedly a “core belief” of the NOI, Mainstream Christian denominations defended slavery and segregation, and antisemitism was a core belief of Catholicism at least until Vatican II, and many Protestant and Evangelical denominations maintain a supercessionist theology (that the New Testament fully and universally replaced the commandments of the Torah) which is itself a religious form of antisemitism.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Protestant and Evangelical denominations maintain a supercessionist theology (that the New Testament fully and universally replaced the commandments of the Torah) which is itself a religious form of antisemitism.

      This feels like saying they are Islamophobic for rejecting the divine authenticity of the Quran. Granted, many of them are Islamophobic and antisemitic (evangelicals especially), but for other reasons

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        yeah it's not antisemitic to religiously disagree on a point with judaism that's just not being Jewish

        • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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          1 year ago

          Having doubts or qualms about a point within Judaism is in fact a very Jewish thing to do. "Struggling with God" and all that.

          I think what @SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net is referring to is churches that have the doctrine that the Torah is incomplete without, and inferior to, the New Testament.

      • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Peter and Paul expressly permitted eating unkosher foods in the NT, and “Judaizing” sects were deemed heretical by some early church councils.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          iirc abig issue to convincing most Greek would-be converts was circumcision and some of the move away from the Halakhah was motivated by the need to convert Greeks who wouldn't get cut. But then it's been 20 years since my early Christian religion classes so correct me if I'm off base.

          I do wonder how much of it was a result of the upheaval around the destruction of the second Temple and the development of Rabbinical Judaism that was going on at around that time. From what I understand it was an incredibly turbulent time in the Hebrew world. I can see a small, extremely heterodox splinter sect like the early Christians seeking to distinguish themselves from the emerging Rabbinical movement.

          I should really start back in to learning about the first century. It's an entire century of weeks where centuries happen and so much of the following 2,000 years were shaped by the upheavals of that century.