This website is like 100% "don't vote" stuff, but shouldn't we? Like... if our DemSoc comrades are asking us to get out and vote, shouldn't we do so out of solidarity?

Someone explain to me why this is a bad thing. Cause i'm legit not seeing it.

  • BillyMays [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Are we really putting Chavez and Corbyn in the same pool of political ideology? Number goes up liberals go up.

    • ChairmanAtreides [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      iirc Corbyn stated during the last election that he would implement "full Chavismo"

      • BillyMays [he/him]
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        Chavez lead a revolutionary guard that is still in power 20 years later against numerous coup attempts by the U.S government including one earlier this year. I have solidarity with Corbyn, but come on.

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        Olaf Palme was quite different from Blair on both foreign and domestic policy. A better British counterpart to him ideologically would be someone like Tony Benn (but Benn was never PM so we cant discuss the theory/praxis distinction). Blair didn't fail to defend any achievements, he succeeded in giving a human face to Thatcherism and cementing a neoliberal consensus, and he was so successful in transforming Labour that the party's immune response to Corbyn was successful. Blairism is a departure from socdem ideology, not a weakened version of it.

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            4 years ago

            I think we need to consider the fact that "actual" social democracy, which asks for a partial nationalization of the economy and sectoral collective bargaining and a cradle-to-grave welfare state is quite distinct from the third way liberalism the traditional socdem parties have come to embrace. The center-left parties have become revisionists of revisionism.