You dunk on Lindsey whateverhernameis for tweeting bad things about leftists fomenting violent insurrection, but hopeful Balkanization and US collapse posts are downbeared. Are you just larping? Either the bourgeois state can be ended without violence or it cannot. I'm not here for enlightened centrism, folks.

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      So you're saying that the British equivalent of a Trump supporter, the cultural equivalent in the sense that Great Britain was sort of like if the confederacy won and controlled the world for centuries, also has the same general aesthetic preferences? The kind which might represent worshipping some sort of strongman and die to protect their nationalist ideology? The kind that drapes themselves in flags in a way that North Koreans would probably find to be an insane degree of zealotry as you've correctly observed?

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        let me refer you to my previous statement:

        literally every country has an unhealthy worship of their political leaders.

        idk what you find so difficult to understand about the fact that you had a bad take that isnt an inherently wrong idea about zealotry being bad but was very very poorly presented.

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          If I'm comparing one of those to another one of those and I choose not to use the British monarchy as an example because I'm guessing socialists are more familiar with North Korea's cultural aesthetic toward its leadership than British monarchists, I'm not saying you're wrong so much as I am that it's an unnecessary criticism. Yeah it's the Modi or the Mao of white people. I don't know what Indian nationalism looks like beyond the occasional picture and Maoist China is the same specific kind of cultural aesthetic but not one you can currently watch. North Korea is one that even the general public knows the aesthetic of.

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            trump: commiting genocide on the basis of ethnicity.

            modi: commiting genocide on the basis of ethnicity.

            dprk and china: ????

            do you see how these things are not the same?

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              Am I comparing the culture and imagery of two groups or am I comparing the actions and ethics of them? You yourself used the British monarchy as an example of the same imagery and culture of strongman worship so you're now starting some different debate I didn't say a thing about.

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                and how often has britain commited genocide on the basis of ethnicity?

                what are you not getting here?

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                  Am I comparing the culture and imagery of two groups or am I comparing the actions and ethics of them?

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                    north korea of white people

                    of white people

                    the "of white people" pretty obviously brings to mind the way in which trump supporters are proponents of an ethnostate and are currently actively commiting genocide on the basis of ethnicity. again, what are you not getting here?

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                      That's saying that if you look at any Trump rally or train or truck with a bunch of bumper stickers they're white. That's not bringing fascist actions into it or drawing some ethical equivalency between the groups. Sure you can point to the British monarchists or the Canadian Trudeau liberals or the Obama/Clinton/Harris supporters, but the imagery and focuses of that imagery aren't to the same degree .