many people in these militia groups use their real names and real photos
Thoughts on doxing these assholes? I see a lot of pros: it creates that "are we being infiltrated" paranoia that disrupts the pipeline, it potentially upends the lives of some Nazis (lol), if one of them is in a position of power getting them fired is even better, it might force some of the more active members/leaders off the platform or out of fascist spaces altogether, and (I know this is a stretch, but) it might serve as a wake-up call to the target.
On the negative side, it could radicalize the target further. Maybe this isn't a pure negative (most will still be too chickenshit to do anything real with their radicalization, and if it blows up a fascist space that might be a net gain), but it's still worth considering.
Elle Reeve, for VICE, made a pulitzer prize winning 20-min documentary about Charlottesville. Pretty big deal for a nobody to win a pulitzer for a VICE doc.
She also made a follow-up, a 'Where Are They Now?' one-year-later doc about the white supremacists.
The overall theme was 'they all got doxed, lost their jobs, friends, had their lives ruined, and now they're not active white supremacists anymore'.
Check out the first doc, it's really good. But the second doc really proves that deplatforming and naming and shaming really, really works; this is why I mention all of this, of course.
Bonus: Both docs heavily feature everyone's favourite Crying Nazi lmao
A collection of Elle Reeve's work for VICE, which focuses largely on the alt-right and antifa, and is super based. Afaik, she now does occasional correspondence for CNN, be that what it may.
The overall theme was ‘they all got doxed, lost their jobs, friends, had their lives ruined, and now they’re not active white supremacists anymore’.
I want to believe, but I can also see them just putting on a good show for the cameras and in reality just getting more covert with their actions. Either way, ruining fascist lives is cool and good and at least puts a giant red flag out there that will hopefully keep them out of positions of power in the future.
Ya. I mean, the crying nazi was hilarious. He was, basically, crying about having lost his online community lmao so sad. Of course, you’re right, a persecution complex is a cornerstone of rightwing ideology, so it could easily be for show. He’s literally called The Crying Nazi, after all hahaha
The one inspiring piece though, which was undeniable, was the alt-right speaking tours. After Charlottesville, antifa basically direct-action blocked alti-right speaking events in halls and universities across the country. Deplatforming them totally took the wind out of their sails and the movement, to some degree, died out from that.
Either way, yes, fascists deserve to see consequences for their beliefs, and painting them in their own colours does have benefits, for sure. :af-heart:
I’d keep it concentrated on the leaders (and after that, people who make open calls for violence), both to help break apart the group but also to avoiding further radicalizing folks who may have just stumbled in there, as you alluded to.
Thoughts on doxing these assholes? I see a lot of pros: it creates that "are we being infiltrated" paranoia that disrupts the pipeline, it potentially upends the lives of some Nazis (lol), if one of them is in a position of power getting them fired is even better, it might force some of the more active members/leaders off the platform or out of fascist spaces altogether, and (I know this is a stretch, but) it might serve as a wake-up call to the target.
On the negative side, it could radicalize the target further. Maybe this isn't a pure negative (most will still be too chickenshit to do anything real with their radicalization, and if it blows up a fascist space that might be a net gain), but it's still worth considering.
Elle Reeve, for VICE, made a pulitzer prize winning 20-min documentary about Charlottesville. Pretty big deal for a nobody to win a pulitzer for a VICE doc.
She also made a follow-up, a 'Where Are They Now?' one-year-later doc about the white supremacists.
The overall theme was 'they all got doxed, lost their jobs, friends, had their lives ruined, and now they're not active white supremacists anymore'.
Check out the first doc, it's really good. But the second doc really proves that deplatforming and naming and shaming really, really works; this is why I mention all of this, of course.
Bonus: Both docs heavily feature everyone's favourite Crying Nazi lmao
Doc 1: Charlottesville: Race and Terror
Doc 2: A year after Charlottesville, the alt-right is in shambles
A collection of Elle Reeve's work for VICE, which focuses largely on the alt-right and antifa, and is super based. Afaik, she now does occasional correspondence for CNN, be that what it may.
I want to believe, but I can also see them just putting on a good show for the cameras and in reality just getting more covert with their actions. Either way, ruining fascist lives is cool and good and at least puts a giant red flag out there that will hopefully keep them out of positions of power in the future.
Ya. I mean, the crying nazi was hilarious. He was, basically, crying about having lost his online community lmao so sad. Of course, you’re right, a persecution complex is a cornerstone of rightwing ideology, so it could easily be for show. He’s literally called The Crying Nazi, after all hahaha
The one inspiring piece though, which was undeniable, was the alt-right speaking tours. After Charlottesville, antifa basically direct-action blocked alti-right speaking events in halls and universities across the country. Deplatforming them totally took the wind out of their sails and the movement, to some degree, died out from that.
Either way, yes, fascists deserve to see consequences for their beliefs, and painting them in their own colours does have benefits, for sure. :af-heart:
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so call his employer.
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Good strategy.