Donald Trump could use emergency powers to extend his term in the White House, a senior Democrat has said, as fears grow that the president may attempt to hold onto office should he lose November’s
It is a nightmare, and that means there are no genuinely good solutions. Every available option has significant downsides. This doesn't mean we quit, but it does mean we have to recalibrate our thinking about the type of downsides we're willing to accept to have a hope at getting anything good done.
An analogy is the penal system in the early Soviet Union. In our ideal world I think this sub would almost entirely be on board with eliminating the death penalty, imprisonment only as a last resort, and with whatever prisons are left being decent, humane places to isolate dangerous individuals from society. Was the Soviet Union from about 1920-1950 in any position to actualize that vision? Abso-fucking-loutely not. Not even close. All available options were bad; there were no genuinely good solutions. But that doesn't mean you quit, that means you pick one of the shitty options, use it to do some good in the short term, and then fix that shitty choice when it becomes possible to do so. We can't stop just because there isn't a shiny, easy path forward.
This country fucking sucks but it's never going to just disappear. It will go full fascist before it simply collapses. As bad as things are now, they can get a lot worse.
I think the strategy has to be:
Fight like hell to make America into something other than a capitalist hellscape.
If that fails in the short term, at least try to steer the country away from full-blown fascism while regrouping to continue fighting for Option 1.
Always be organizing, radicalizing, agitating, and arming yourself.
Yea what I said was more of joke, I wouldn't actually advise voting for Trump. Just saying that there's something to look forward to even in the darkest timeline
As for what you said, 100% true, but if America starts collapsing into a fascist shithole, at the very least they'd be much less able to continue funding coups, insurgencies, and assassinations in left-wing countries
if America starts collapsing into a fascist shithole, at the very least they’d be much less able to continue funding coups, insurgencies, and assassinations in left-wing countries
Maybe. I think the military-industrial complex will be able to perpetuate itself in this scenario. Fascists love the military and external enemies, after all.
Oh, the military industrial congressional complex will absolutely carry on long after America falls, if this is the route America goes down - but they'd mostly be focused inwards, on oppressing the people and repressing resistance. Still a bleak look, but it will provide a window for our international comrades to build power (and hopefully reach a point where neoliberal states can no longer outright depose of them)
It is a nightmare, and that means there are no genuinely good solutions. Every available option has significant downsides. This doesn't mean we quit, but it does mean we have to recalibrate our thinking about the type of downsides we're willing to accept to have a hope at getting anything good done.
An analogy is the penal system in the early Soviet Union. In our ideal world I think this sub would almost entirely be on board with eliminating the death penalty, imprisonment only as a last resort, and with whatever prisons are left being decent, humane places to isolate dangerous individuals from society. Was the Soviet Union from about 1920-1950 in any position to actualize that vision? Abso-fucking-loutely not. Not even close. All available options were bad; there were no genuinely good solutions. But that doesn't mean you quit, that means you pick one of the shitty options, use it to do some good in the short term, and then fix that shitty choice when it becomes possible to do so. We can't stop just because there isn't a shiny, easy path forward.
This, and your post above is the reason why I can't advocate for voting against Biden right now. America is not in a position to survive much else.
Yea, I'd say if we wanna save America Biden needs to win. Which is a pretty solid argument to vote for Trump
This country fucking sucks but it's never going to just disappear. It will go full fascist before it simply collapses. As bad as things are now, they can get a lot worse.
I think the strategy has to be:
Yea what I said was more of joke, I wouldn't actually advise voting for Trump. Just saying that there's something to look forward to even in the darkest timeline
As for what you said, 100% true, but if America starts collapsing into a fascist shithole, at the very least they'd be much less able to continue funding coups, insurgencies, and assassinations in left-wing countries
Maybe. I think the military-industrial complex will be able to perpetuate itself in this scenario. Fascists love the military and external enemies, after all.
Oh, the military industrial congressional complex will absolutely carry on long after America falls, if this is the route America goes down - but they'd mostly be focused inwards, on oppressing the people and repressing resistance. Still a bleak look, but it will provide a window for our international comrades to build power (and hopefully reach a point where neoliberal states can no longer outright depose of them)