Fucking hate the Imperialist Democratic Party, and think there's basically no chance they'll actually pass meaningful student debt relief under Biden.

But a universal vanquishing of the first $50,000 held in student debt by graduates will meaningfully improve the conditions of tens of millions of Americans; for both graduates, and those who did never attended a post-secondary institution alike.

57% of Americans support "forgiving up to $50,000 in student loans for individuals who live in households that make less than $250,000 a year", including a majority of those who never attended a College.

This just seems rich considering Chapo often mocked liberals who were incapable of admitting that Trump can do good things at times, and now they may fall into the same trap of opposing on instinct everything coming from the Biden camp.

Actually people should keep suffering, because stopping it with the stroke of a pen would alienate the working class

    • PhaseFour [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      the vast majority of Americans are 45+, homeowners

      This is a lie lol

        • PhaseFour [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          40% of Americans rent. 30-40% of adults are between 18 and 45.

          If there's any intersection between those two numbers, it's a lie with even stricter parameters.

            • PhaseFour [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Yes, so maybe half the country is both +45 and a home-owner.

              That is a far-cry from a "vast majority" or being the "average American."

                • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  “Student debt” is simply not a direct material issue for the vast majority of Americans.

                  This is the first comment in the thread.

                  Yes, we all know the reasons why, but the vast majority of Americans are 45+, homeowners, with no experience of ever even having large amounts of student debt.

                  This is the comment I was referring to.

                  I didn't notice you said "voters" once when you realized the numbers did not line up how you imagined.

                • rolly6cast [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  simply not a direct material issue for the vast majority of Americans

                  Similar to when progressives talk about “rent”

                  You didn't open this with voter. A lot of people expect to own a home and we have views of poor people as losers, sure. Any successful progressive movement will have to be with a decent chunk of working class people independent of their voting status now or not, at a local organizing level to address concerns like rent and threats of evictions that are incoming. It's pretty bizarre to present it as some distanced harmful limited thing to the left to talk about on the level of student debt.