Fucking hate the Imperialist Democratic Party, and think there's basically no chance they'll actually pass meaningful student debt relief under Biden.

But a universal vanquishing of the first $50,000 held in student debt by graduates will meaningfully improve the conditions of tens of millions of Americans; for both graduates, and those who did never attended a post-secondary institution alike.

57% of Americans support "forgiving up to $50,000 in student loans for individuals who live in households that make less than $250,000 a year", including a majority of those who never attended a College.

This just seems rich considering Chapo often mocked liberals who were incapable of admitting that Trump can do good things at times, and now they may fall into the same trap of opposing on instinct everything coming from the Biden camp.

Actually people should keep suffering, because stopping it with the stroke of a pen would alienate the working class

  • WannabeRoach [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah, it is a surprisingly awful take from him. Not that Matt is some kind of fountain of genius, but it just seems confused. Even if you were to accept the notion that forgiving student debt would suddenly make all of the non-college debt holders totally alienated from the Democratic Party, who cares? His framing almost makes it sound like he is spiteful about that, like the Democrats fucking up is something to resent. I like it when the Democrats trip over their dicks, I enjoy people being alienated from the Democratic Party. It makes for more fertile ground to just generally oppose them and oppose Democratic entryism.

    Unfortunately they probably wouldn't be tripping over their dicks in this case. It also isn't really something you can publicly oppose, like "NO don't give people debt relief!". That makes you look like some kind of reactionary, in the same way people who identified on the left that actually supported Trump looked like psychos. Trump was arguably an asset to the left in the sense that he was a major fuck up. Like, if Jeff Bezos is slashing wages and forcing people to shit in buckets that is an asset to the left too, because that kind of wanton aggression quickly identifies Bezos as the enemy of his employees. But you can't tell the workers to ask Jeff Bezos to force them to shit in buckets so that they get pissed at him. He has to do it on his own, as a consequence of him being a bourgeois psycho. Similarly, Trump going out and basically shouting that he hated black people or that he was going to shit all over poor people by taking away their healthcare was great, not in the sense that it was actually good but in the sense that the enemy was exposing himself. The Democratic Party is more of a problem because it tries to pretend it isn't your enemy. It shrugs and says reluctantly "Sorry, I gotta take away your benefits and outsource your jobs because the market demands it. But I feel bad about it, especially for the black people, nobody is talking about how much they'll hurt over this. But maybe we can point you to a website where you can learn to code?" and just because the alternative is Republicans dancing around a bonfire with bodies on it people take it.

    In general this is why this election was one of the worst outcomes. It will be difficult to convincingly criticize Biden for not promoting more substantial policies like free college because he can both point to his old campaign platform that promised free public college, and he can point to the Senate and say "well I could have done that if you had just voted hard enough". It's just perfect for them if they play it all correctly. Right now they are kind of in disarray and a part of the party is showing its ass because it is still blaming M4A and Sanders for not sweeping the government, and then there is this other part that is trying to take advantage of the situation by plotting some positive moves that will make them look like they're willing to act, but like the Senate is just blocking them from the big stuff.

    • AngusMcAnus [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Not that Matt is some kind of fountain of genius,

      r/AcidMarxism in shambles

      • WannabeRoach [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Lol even worse I went and looked at the comments of the tweet and some of Matt's fans are clearly trying to rationalize it into something coherent. My man just felt a little woozy and vomited onto his timeline, no need to stare into it for clues about the cosmos.

        • AngusMcAnus [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I mean I mostly enjoy the Cushvlogs when I watch them and they can be pretty insightful imo, but it's not like we should put all his opinions on a pedestal lol

          • Phish [he/him, any]
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            4 years ago

            Seriously, it's a ton of off the cuff, stream of consciousness stuff. He'll even point to stuff he said a while back and say, yeah I was definitely wrong about that. I really enjoy his streams and he's definitely enlightened me on some things, but for the love of god be analytical when you watch this kind of thing.

            I do kind of see where his head is at with this one. Getting rid of that debt is unquestionably good, but if it's the only thing they do it's just a pat on the back for his voting block and it doesn't extend much to the working class. It also feels pretty empty if college remains as expensive as it is currently.