https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1325917740822093825

  • regul [any]
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    The best way to build left unity is to never say anything mean about another leftist's choices ever.

    This is why gamer conventions all smell like shit. A bunch of people who got bullied a bunch for being "different" swing in the complete opposite direction and decide that you can never call out anyone for any reason.

    You wanna have a party of foppish dandies go off, but don't act like including them isn't a bigger turn off for everyone else.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      The best way to build left unity is to never say anything mean about another leftist’s choices ever.

      Did I say no criticism is allowed, ever?

      And I don't buy the "oh he's a bad look for the left" bit because (1) it never acknowledges that starting an explicitly socialist magazine is really really good for the left, and (2) people revel in Zizek being unkempt and post that quote about Marx living a bohemian lifestyle all the time. No one pretends to care about that stuff for people they like.

      • regul [any]
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        Zizek is unkempt in a way that normal people are unkempt.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          It doesn't matter. You never hear about any pundit's fashion choices unless it's some chud we're dunking on. He's not a politician, he hardly has any visual media presence.

          He hates capitalism as much as you do, if not more. There are so few of us as it is, why shit on the guy over wearing a cravat?

          • regul [any]
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            Because no other pundit dresses like a plantation owner. There are no other targets.

            • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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              no other pundit dresses like a plantation owner

              Yes, yes, subtle racial accusations are the best way to build left unity!

              • regul [any]
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                Yes, yes, bad faith characterizations of obvious jokes are the best way to build left unity.

                Nobody said he was a fucking racist. Stop being a scold.

                • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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                  bad faith characterizations

                  "Plantation owner" has exactly one connotation in American politics. But keep on complaining about bad faith while you claim a guy is making up an accent.

                    • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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                      I'm not saying that I think the left has an image of over being anti-fun and against personal expression that doesn't fit a narrow mold, but I think the left has an image of over being anti-fun and against personal expression that doesn't fit a narrow mold.

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                        Yeah I never thought I'd see the day where a leftist rails against someone for not dressing "normally" because it makes other people uncomfortable. Sounds like puritans talking about sex. So what if he chooses things? I'm not at all equating the oppression of marginalized groups with dressing or talking differently but this sounds like the people who say being gay is a lifestyle, and trans people are invalid because they "chose" their gender. If you feel the way you express yourself doesn't line up with your identity, change it! People like this keep people from doing so with their sanctimonious haranguing. As long as what people wear is in sincerity and isn't hateful or offensive or provocative, if you're bothered by how they dress, you're the problem.