• DasRav [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Well, that's not true, there is a choice. The choice the people in charge are making. To let it happen and hope you stay on top because you are on top now.

      • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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        4 years ago

        Oh yeah? Let's hear what anarchists have to say about that!

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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      It's not really a matter of "totally centralized" more like "totally computerized", production at scale has to be planned, whether that planning is "centralized" depends on your definition of the term

    • CenkUygurCamp [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      preferably it is based on decisions made at the roots, but there will always be a central point to aggregate all info and steer towards a generally desired outcome

  • gammison [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I have a few disagreements with this post on the history of soviet cybernetics, and cybernetics more generally, need to make an effort post considering I've taken courses in cold war techno cultures. Studying the whole period really left a sour taste in my mouth over modern revivals like the People's Republic of Walmart that imo are not seriously engaging with the ideology and history.

    Some books to checkout (I will make a syllabus post on !books@hexbear.net )

    • From Newspeak to Cyberspeak by Slava Gerovitch
    • Cybernetic Revolutionaries: Technology and Politics in Allende's Chile by Edin Medina.
    • The Closed World by Stephen Edwards.
  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    I know this post is ancient but I was searching for discussion of OGAS on hexbear and came across this thread. The mods deleted this great post.

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    So I found an archive of it. I'm going to report the post in the hopes that a moderator changes the link of the thread to the archive.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20201109154146/https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeanSocialists/comments/jqx83s/on_the_popular_misconception_of_the_soviet/