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  • no surprises@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    The issue is not that:

    We’re communists who are very hostile toward racism, transphobia, homophobia, ableism, and other such bigotry.

    The issue is that:

    We're very hostile

    Everything else doesn't really matter if you look at the feedback.

    • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Hahaha no way.

      So if I say "We hate bigots and fascists."

      You just read "We hate"?

      • Shihali@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        I read "We hate anyone who doesn't agree with us."

        Said out loud: "We hate bigots and fascists."
        Unsaid but implied in many interactions: "Anyone who doesn't agree with us is a bigot or a fascist."
        Combine: "We hate bigots and fascists, by which we mean anyone who doesn't agree with us."
        Simplify: "We hate anyone who doesn't agree with us."

          • Shihali@sh.itjust.works
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            1 year ago

            You used "we". Who is "we"? The rest of the discussion implies that "we" means "we Hexbear users".

            So here's a better question: how can a White, cisgender, cissexual man politically to the right of Bernie Sanders disagree with you without being a bigot or a fascist?

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              You say that like Bernard is the ne plus ultra of genuine progressivism.

              Also did you mean to say heterosexual or did I finally encounter a "LGBTT" type in the wild?

            • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Idk should look into that a bit more.

              Which views do you hold that are to the right of a center left liberal?

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      By and large, we are only hostile to those who are hostile to us first. Perhaps the onus is on you to stop spewing hyperreactionary sewage onto the internet that is easily disproven by even 10 minutes of research, rather than expecting us not to respond when you say that shit and then acting like "Oh, golly gee, golly me! I could not have foreseen that people would have been angry at me when I stated this godawful take!"

      Starting out conversations by calling us genocide-denying fascists who are only pretending to be LGBTQIA+ for plausible deniability is obviously going to get you fucking swarmed in return, don't act like you didn't do anything and you're just a poor little meow meow trying to have civil discussions

        • charlie
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          1 year ago

          I’m sorry, is this you?

          However, please keep this in mind - that being a Nazi sympathizer does not automatically invalidate one’s opinions on other topics.

          I would expect most people to be hostile to that opinion.

        • hotcouchguy [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          hostile to people who hold different opinions than theirs.

          Which opinions?

          • charlie
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            1 year ago

            However, please keep this in mind - that being a Nazi sympathizer does not automatically invalidate one’s opinions on other topics.

            Quote from one of their posts about Hexbear. Their opinion seems to be that Nazi’s are OK. So I can see why Hexbear would have a problem with that.

    • Egon
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      3 months ago

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