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    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      he fell into it ass-backwards because he's a savant at being famous, but it won't help him pull off a coup

      • InnuendOwO [she/her]
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        yeah i'm still increasingly convinced he just did it to bolster his name so he could spin up a right-wing media empire to challenge Murdoch or something but somehow fucked up spectacularly and ended up here

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          When he ends up not doing a coup, are you gonna take the lesson and stop making hyperbolic predictions or are you gonna keep doing it anyways? Because I don't see many of the "leave America while there is time, there will be mass violence and war after the election" really taking to heart the lesson. There is literally 0 reason for a coup to happen other than "Trump wants it" which isn't good enough.

          • anthm17 [he/him]
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            He's transparently trying to do a coup and mocking him as incompetent instead of taking it seriously is how you end up with him winning again.

            I don't think he can do a coup. I don't think he has the support. He's still trying, and that's still a really fucking bad thing.

            Is Bill Barr just a savant at being famous?

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              He's not "trying" to do a coup. That's not how you "try" to do a coup. It's not a serious effort and it's absolutely nothing to worry about. It doesn't matter if he is competent or not. A coup does not happen just because some moron wishes it, even if they are president. Trump probably knows it. That's not why he is doing all the noise.

              • anthm17 [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                No a coup takes planning. Moving your peple into position. Drumming up support. maybe manufacturing a narrative to try and give it some legitimacy.

                • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Lmao that is literally 100% ahistorical.

    • TheWM_ [she/her,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Trump getting elected was somewhat a miracle. 2016 should have been an easy win for Hillary, but she somehow managed to lose to Donald fucking Trump.

      • phimosis__jones [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        2016 should have been an easy win for the democrat, there could never have been an easy win for Hillary because almost everyone who doesn't live in New York, DC or San Francisco hates her fucking guts.

      • joshuaism [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Same for 2020? or were both teams trying to throw the game?

    • DasKarlBarx [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      On almost complete accident, though. He was (reportedly) not trying to win and (reportedly) wanted to parlay the run at president into a news network.

    • Libleaningleft [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      So did Bush 2. I don't think you need to be smart to do that. You just need someone smart to run shit. Bush had Rove and Trump had Conway.

        • Libleaningleft [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          True. But what he doesn't have is the backing of capital or the media. There just isn't enough to get the bourgeoisie and the general PMC to go along with it.

          • anthm17 [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            What he probably doesn't have is enough control over the military.

            You're talking about media while his supporters are soaking up OANN on facebook (and worse for the younger ones).

            • Libleaningleft [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Those are both fair points but if the BLM protests and the right wing reactions to them taught me anything it's that most trump supporters are to fat and lazy to do the boogaloo. They would get in board if it's done for them but we're talking about his most devoted and those willing to take to the streets for nights on end. Without capital, a larger media support, and the military I don't see it happening. Then again, I thought Hillary would win in 2016 so there's no reason to think I'm right but that's my guess.

        • Libleaningleft [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Honestly, the newest Ep of TMBS got into this a bit but I think capital will find more opportunities without Trump, especially while giving some suggestion of stability amid the pandemic and coming economic crash. I'll link it here. It's worth a listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsACy2PDDLI