• Sen_Jen [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Fucking balkanised that island. The dream is to have a united ireland that's bigger than England

  • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If they run someone I'll vote for them. Fuck it, why not? It's not like I'm voting for this evil Labour party anyway.

  • Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    This is pretty dumb imo. The reason for the north south divide is because capital will develop areas in which its return is greatest. There are economic divides in all sorts of countries because of this. Germany has an east west divide, Italy has a north south divide etc. Simply getting independence from the south isnt going to fix this. Instead you will get people complaining that Manchester gets all the wealth while Newcastle lags behind.

    If you want to fix England you need to abolish capitalism, attempting to solve capitalism's problems with nationalism, especially for an oppressor nation like England, has historically always lead to fascism.

    • HMDHEGD [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Well, Germany's East-West divide is a consequence of the "reunion" (see: anschluss) which was just a westernization of East Germany, with the Ossis loosing their jobs and self determination. I really don't see the problem with localising power.

  • Dyno [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Regionalists are petite nationalists

  • HMDHEGD [he/him]
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    Why the fuck do they keep using "Northumbria". It's usually used for Northumberland and Durham now...

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I fucking called it. https://hexbear.net/post/48903/comment/448113

  • lelolul [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    for a new nation beyond the Humber

    Grimsby BTFO.

    Also this wording is a little strange, given all their talk of not wanting to be defined from the perspective of London.

    The North, which we prefer to call by its historic name ‘Northumbria’

    Well that's stupid. The proposed borders are nothing like either the modern or historic usage of that term. They should probably just call it "The Kingdom of the North" to appeal to GOT fans. That way they might actually get a non-negligible amount of support.

    Yet mainstream media and Westminster continues to lump us together as a deprived, bigoted backwater.

    Yeah, that's ridiculous. The posh parts of Cheshire are an extremely wealthy, bigoted backwater.

    The only thing the SNP and Plaid have really achieved so far is splitting the left and helping the Tories, and redirecting activists from worthwhile causes into pointless constitutional shit. I can't imagine this being any different, except it's much less likely to gain any traction in the first place. Though at least they actually seem to be on the left, whereas afaik the SNP and Plaid were historically centrist, and it always seems a bit doubtful whether their recent leftward drift is genuine or just a strategic thing.