Of course and I'm not denying that, although I did probably word that poorly. Name it's that a prerequisite of that is people working together inside these large enterprises that can then later be socialized. Should those enterprises no longer exist, there isn't any socialism that could then later come about for said workers.
Keynesianism does also protect the broader social contract within social democracy however which is the more important point there.
I was just arguing that it really can't be "kept away from imploding". A look at history and you realize it's inevitable
Also I'm glad you mentioned that we should not limit ourselves to "socialize the workplace", we should abolish it altogether, eventually. I see too many communists arguing and limiting themselves to "democratizing the workplace", not realizing the hell of capitalism is not that the firm has a boss, but the firm itself
Of course and I'm not denying that, although I did probably word that poorly. Name it's that a prerequisite of that is people working together inside these large enterprises that can then later be socialized. Should those enterprises no longer exist, there isn't any socialism that could then later come about for said workers.
Keynesianism does also protect the broader social contract within social democracy however which is the more important point there.
I was just arguing that it really can't be "kept away from imploding". A look at history and you realize it's inevitable
Also I'm glad you mentioned that we should not limit ourselves to "socialize the workplace", we should abolish it altogether, eventually. I see too many communists arguing and limiting themselves to "democratizing the workplace", not realizing the hell of capitalism is not that the firm has a boss, but the firm itself