Look. I'm not trying to start another pointless struggle session. Far from that, I want each and every one of us to confront this most strange attempt at multilateralism by two of our favourite existing socialisms.

There's no substantial article on the environment. Not a single word on climate or pollution. And nothing on labour issues.

I get that the whole thing is brand new and the member countries will probably amend to add more to the document in later stages.

But now is the point the heads of governments go back to their respective legislative body for ratification. Again, nothing on labour, the environment or the climate.

I want us Chapos to confront the likelihood that existing socialist experiments are faltering, even abandoning, a key promise of socialism to workers: reducing work hours for more leisure time. That, and no idea how trade is going to connect to the climate crisis.

  • Sphincter_Spartan [any,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I don't think that's unfalsifiable, you could prove it wrong by giving a solid argument that they could have done significantly more than they have. As you say, the same has been said for dems and is clearly bullshit, meaning that it is falsifiable, because you can easily show how much more the dems could do if they cared. It's definitely easier to defend for the USSR, they accomplished more than China regarding workers rights and quality of life, but they're gone and the CCP survived, because the CCP has managed to tie western economies to itself so that actions taken to damage China will almost all damage those western economies. But because of this, developing workers rights as much as the USSR wasn't possible, for the sake of attracting that western capital. Chinas methods are harder to defend because they don't help their people as much, but they have kept them around