Those individual supporters are invested enough in the spectacle of their politics that they're not the ones to be convincing. If someone just kind of says "I guess I'm a liberal" because they know it's the nice person word instead of the mean person word or the city word instead of the rural word, that's someone who can be reached. They're the same lumpens as the old roommate I had whose political identity was vegetarian. If someone is actually stanning liberalism as an ideology they participate in or benefit from, radicalisation is only something they're willing to pursue until it violates any of their conditions for political reality. They wrote us off as quickly as Bernie did because we were mean to the other nice candidate that the party sent to undermine him. Every stage of the primary was dragging them kicking and screaming into hopefully admitting that people need healthcare, something they went back on as quickly as they did any notion of environmentalism. And that was the individual voters because they gave consent to the politicians and don't offer resistance while shutting down those who do. All the books we've read and all the same ideas that are basic common sense to us are just as free and available to any of them but if you want to test your theory please go into r/politics and quote Marx or say negative things about Joe Biden or neoliberalism. Call him a rapist because there was a credible accusation of rape against him and a basic principle of ours is standing with women. The ones who understand politics well enough to know their place in it historically have never been on the table. When they are, the result is watered down to the point that it no longer resembles socialism.
The people Bernie was going after. My point is that there are enough barriers toward reaching them through that avenue that it may as well be off the table. In the best case scenarios for it happening, you just get variations of what happened to Bernie. That's all a massive investment of money and manpower which tied itself to one specific thing happening from the demographic that becomes socialists if you explain what socialism is to them and the demographic that hates socialists. They're a big group sure, but they don't believe in punching fascists or owning guns by and large. They don't support the people or policies or underlying theories that the left brings to the table. Building a coalition with them just gets you liberalism with a rehabilitated image while turning them into socialists opposed to the party is something with so many institutional barriers to it that the reward doesn't match the investment. It's Push Him Left but for countless individuals who usually have something to lose under socialism and whose every other source of information is reinforcing the views they already have.
Those individual supporters are invested enough in the spectacle of their politics that they're not the ones to be convincing. If someone just kind of says "I guess I'm a liberal" because they know it's the nice person word instead of the mean person word or the city word instead of the rural word, that's someone who can be reached. They're the same lumpens as the old roommate I had whose political identity was vegetarian. If someone is actually stanning liberalism as an ideology they participate in or benefit from, radicalisation is only something they're willing to pursue until it violates any of their conditions for political reality. They wrote us off as quickly as Bernie did because we were mean to the other nice candidate that the party sent to undermine him. Every stage of the primary was dragging them kicking and screaming into hopefully admitting that people need healthcare, something they went back on as quickly as they did any notion of environmentalism. And that was the individual voters because they gave consent to the politicians and don't offer resistance while shutting down those who do. All the books we've read and all the same ideas that are basic common sense to us are just as free and available to any of them but if you want to test your theory please go into r/politics and quote Marx or say negative things about Joe Biden or neoliberalism. Call him a rapist because there was a credible accusation of rape against him and a basic principle of ours is standing with women. The ones who understand politics well enough to know their place in it historically have never been on the table. When they are, the result is watered down to the point that it no longer resembles socialism.
OK, then who are we convincing?
The people Bernie was going after. My point is that there are enough barriers toward reaching them through that avenue that it may as well be off the table. In the best case scenarios for it happening, you just get variations of what happened to Bernie. That's all a massive investment of money and manpower which tied itself to one specific thing happening from the demographic that becomes socialists if you explain what socialism is to them and the demographic that hates socialists. They're a big group sure, but they don't believe in punching fascists or owning guns by and large. They don't support the people or policies or underlying theories that the left brings to the table. Building a coalition with them just gets you liberalism with a rehabilitated image while turning them into socialists opposed to the party is something with so many institutional barriers to it that the reward doesn't match the investment. It's Push Him Left but for countless individuals who usually have something to lose under socialism and whose every other source of information is reinforcing the views they already have.