I have a master's degree in something useless job wise and have had military experience.

  • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    In my experience they push for A+ for entry level, guys i know with no experience and dumber than I am got in... and that's what theyre doing atm.

    But thats just my location, im sure a network or security is obviously better though

    • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      yea in my current job i have to get Security+ or Network+ to advance but i dont want to go in the field really. and the bar is pretty low for entry level, my employer took a reference and found out this guy apparently learned nothing in college, the same program im in. He didn't know what DHCP or DNS was, like even the basics.

        • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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          4 years ago

          my manager had a meeting and told the trainers that and we were like thats pretty fuckin bad. just tell me DHCP hands out IP addresses, you don't have to fix it. yeesh. so be better than that haha.

          • throwawaylemmy2 [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Well shit. That makes me feel worse for doing A+ and reading a text-book if someone that doesn't even self-study and just did a college course and cruised into a place gets a job in the industry over me. :(

            • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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              4 years ago

              i wish i knew how the fuck it happened. I was hired as a level 2 so I had a more thorough evaluation, but my friend who i referred didnt have the same complaints made about him. Yea it sucks that it is still about who you know cause im not very social. Im just lucky i went to high school with some good dudes. I didnt meet fuckin anybody at college though because my school was a 90% commuter school. Robert Half and places like them kinda suck but it's a means to an end. Maybe my area just really sucks for talent.

              • throwawaylemmy2 [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                I've tried Robert Half and they're like "Honestly, you're probably better than most of the folks we refer to places!" which might be blowing smoke up my ass about their evaluation, but felt good. The issue was "but there's nothing your area for us to refer you to" which killed me.

                I'm in a completely dead zone between two "hot" areas, and even those places won't even consider me even if I want to commute. It's frustrating. It's like this even outside of IT, so I don't blame the IT industry to the "entry level is fucking impossible to get into" situation, but damn: I've gotten certifications, I show willingness to learn (on the job and off the clock) and these places are like "nope, no experience. Let's hire this college kid that just coasted through classes! :)!" and it makes me want to firebomb.

                • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  they are out there, somewhere. Most of the guys i work with did not go to college, but we do more lower level stuff, not so much with servers and whatnot.

                  • throwawaylemmy2 [none/use name]
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                    4 years ago

                    Well, I'm trying help-desk. Which is the "what the fuck," part. You'd think they'd need warm bodies to deal with people, but even law firms are like "nah, let's not hire them."

                    • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      law firms probably don't have the ability to have a large IT team so they want one guy who can do it all. Try looking for an MSP(managed service provider.) I'd like to get to something corporate where i dont have to deal with clients anymore but its where i got started. A lot of them arent huge companies either so it's a bit more personal.