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  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    No, the idea that we'd need to be an authoritarian dictatorship to end climate change is capitalist fear-mongering "the cure is worse then the problem so lets not do anything!"

    All we'd need to do really is put some heavy regulations on polluting industries. You might be limited in the amount of meat you can eat and you might not be able to buy a new gass guzzler, but thats about it. On top of that, if we mobilised our militaries to start creating carbon-absorbing forests, we could easily beat this thing.

    Think of it like the CFC ban they did to stop the ozone being depleted. The Ozone was actually repairing itself. It is possible and you'd mostly be placing restrictions on megacorporations like Exxon.

    Sure, new polluting products might become expensive or rare but, like, people can suck it up, the worlds fucking ending.

    Regulations and shit used to be normal even in capitalist countries, we're just so whipped by the right-wing that any laws that restrict corporations have been demonised as evil commie scum.

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I was mostly joking, but there is a zero chance we could keep the Earth inhabitable without massive violence and restriction of "freedoms". You say "people can suck it up" but they won't, at least not willingly. US elites will literally kill millions of people to maintain favorable conditions in the oil market. They will not play ball and they have more power than all of us combined. They need to have that power forcefully taken from them with violence if we are ever going to do anything for the climate.

      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        I said that they "can" not that they "will". Sadly I know our masters are too whipped by capitalism to do anything. They'd have to be forced by the people revolting. As conditions turn to shit, they might just have to to avoid extinction.

    • pisspissass [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      mostly be placing restrictions on megacorporations like Exxon

      good luck with that. they may as well own the government

      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        "We won't set our military on your CEOs for creating the largest threat to humanity the world has ever seen if you follow these regulations." The government would have to grow a spine, of course, but they're still the government.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I mean yes, a climate economy would still be worth living. It's not some spartan dystopia. But there would have to be severe consumption restrictions over the next decade as we transition. The sharper the change the easier the medium term will be.