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  • Blurst_Of_Times [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    This seems like one of those people who still has that childhood mentality of "everything will be alright, the people in charge know what they're doing and care about us".

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    4 years ago

    Let's wait and see what the scientists say.

    Wait, the scientists already said carbon neutral by 2050 is too late? Well let's just wait and see you never know we might magically become carbon neutral next year. Anything can happen.

  • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Now, I'm going to fire this 50cal sniper rifle at that score card your holding across your chest from this end of the bowling alley, but don't worry, the card will protect you.

    What are you talking about!? A tiny piece of card you can punch out with a hole punch isn't going to protect me! Are you out of your mind!?

    God, why don't you just wait and see?! It might not meet your impossible standards for safety but let's just do it and then we'll see what happens ok?

  • p_sharikov [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Look, you don't know why the the military is having us stand in front of this wall. Let's just wait and see what it means.

  • Not_irony [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Send them the Citations Need episode transcript, one sentence at a time. The one about democrats bei.g science deniers, with extra steps

  • Zodiark [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    you might want to google the term Learned Helplessness , if you really are wondering why.

    • TossedAccount [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      A significant breakthrough over the course of my radicalization was the realization that my neoliberal apologia was coming from a position of learned helplessness.

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      We need an eco-Dictatorship of the Proletariat that makes Stalin look like a pacifist. Imagine just trying to ban massive trucks for personal use in the US. You would never be able to get people to do it without brutal force.

      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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        No, the idea that we'd need to be an authoritarian dictatorship to end climate change is capitalist fear-mongering "the cure is worse then the problem so lets not do anything!"

        All we'd need to do really is put some heavy regulations on polluting industries. You might be limited in the amount of meat you can eat and you might not be able to buy a new gass guzzler, but thats about it. On top of that, if we mobilised our militaries to start creating carbon-absorbing forests, we could easily beat this thing.

        Think of it like the CFC ban they did to stop the ozone being depleted. The Ozone was actually repairing itself. It is possible and you'd mostly be placing restrictions on megacorporations like Exxon.

        Sure, new polluting products might become expensive or rare but, like, people can suck it up, the worlds fucking ending.

        Regulations and shit used to be normal even in capitalist countries, we're just so whipped by the right-wing that any laws that restrict corporations have been demonised as evil commie scum.

        • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I was mostly joking, but there is a zero chance we could keep the Earth inhabitable without massive violence and restriction of "freedoms". You say "people can suck it up" but they won't, at least not willingly. US elites will literally kill millions of people to maintain favorable conditions in the oil market. They will not play ball and they have more power than all of us combined. They need to have that power forcefully taken from them with violence if we are ever going to do anything for the climate.

          • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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            4 years ago

            I said that they "can" not that they "will". Sadly I know our masters are too whipped by capitalism to do anything. They'd have to be forced by the people revolting. As conditions turn to shit, they might just have to to avoid extinction.

        • pisspissass [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          mostly be placing restrictions on megacorporations like Exxon

          good luck with that. they may as well own the government

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            4 years ago

            "We won't set our military on your CEOs for creating the largest threat to humanity the world has ever seen if you follow these regulations." The government would have to grow a spine, of course, but they're still the government.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          I mean yes, a climate economy would still be worth living. It's not some spartan dystopia. But there would have to be severe consumption restrictions over the next decade as we transition. The sharper the change the easier the medium term will be.

    • pisspissass [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      yes. we are currently scouting for an Eco Stalin. think you have what it takes? apply at ecostalinism.gov

  • Abraxiel
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    4 years ago

    Lmao second thing I see on that tweet is someone saying it's unnecessarily ageist to be concerned that a 77 year old might not be the best choice to head up ensuring we have a livable climate for the future.

  • TossedAccount [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    These same people are going to shrug and look the other way when the covid crisis isn't quickly solved by Biden's administration.

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    What's a "realistic" response to climate change? I don't know. It's complicated, because building new infrastructure and such will also cause emissions. But what seems "realistic" to me is humanity struggling to feed itself in a few generations because these fucking idiots don't take anything seriously. There's a handful of people that know what to do and their plans probably won't seem "realistic" to the cowards.