i think we all believe in good logistics. I think redundancy and creating local independent infrastructure is as important as creating fun massive soviet style bullshit. and possibly more efficient in many cases.
I'm not sure you understand the extent to which Neoliberalism has completely reshaped production.
Even if your goal was to create mostly autonomous regions with independent infrastructure, which is anti socialist to some extent (what obligations do they have to the global proletariat now?), it would take decades of central planning to reach that point. We're just nowhere near it.
Think about like the average car. It has components from easily like a dozen countries, and those components come from a dozen countries of their own. Even the final parts aren't made and assembled in the same place. How could you possibly localize that? The knowledge transfers alone would require higher organization. Let alone the investment, construction, training, etc.
This is not about recreating the Soviet system, but realizing that any left project going forward has to be very big and very serious, or it will just essentially be adapting left aesthetics to climate apocalypse, and be wiped out by the likely Feudal dialectic that emerges from that.
big doesn't mean centralized. more duplication of the means of production hurts nobody. the logic of networks and the logic of sieges both apply. even if you can't cover all your needs from redundant local sources, you're still just a little more able to resist. a little more able to protest when you get your key life saving meds or dietary staples from non-capitalist sources. a little harder to siege a city like you KNOW is about to happen when there are a thousand hydroponic farms in basements and bullet manufacturing facilities in bedrooms. the fascists are good at fighting mirrors, and, where possible, we should not rely on the logistics of capitalist tyranny.
you also don't have to trust as many parties this way. even if some centralized production of shit like really complex drugs and electronics still occurs.
i think we all believe in good logistics. I think redundancy and creating local independent infrastructure is as important as creating fun massive soviet style bullshit. and possibly more efficient in many cases.
I'm not sure you understand the extent to which Neoliberalism has completely reshaped production.
Even if your goal was to create mostly autonomous regions with independent infrastructure, which is anti socialist to some extent (what obligations do they have to the global proletariat now?), it would take decades of central planning to reach that point. We're just nowhere near it.
Think about like the average car. It has components from easily like a dozen countries, and those components come from a dozen countries of their own. Even the final parts aren't made and assembled in the same place. How could you possibly localize that? The knowledge transfers alone would require higher organization. Let alone the investment, construction, training, etc.
This is not about recreating the Soviet system, but realizing that any left project going forward has to be very big and very serious, or it will just essentially be adapting left aesthetics to climate apocalypse, and be wiped out by the likely Feudal dialectic that emerges from that.
big doesn't mean centralized. more duplication of the means of production hurts nobody. the logic of networks and the logic of sieges both apply. even if you can't cover all your needs from redundant local sources, you're still just a little more able to resist. a little more able to protest when you get your key life saving meds or dietary staples from non-capitalist sources. a little harder to siege a city like you KNOW is about to happen when there are a thousand hydroponic farms in basements and bullet manufacturing facilities in bedrooms. the fascists are good at fighting mirrors, and, where possible, we should not rely on the logistics of capitalist tyranny.
you also don't have to trust as many parties this way. even if some centralized production of shit like really complex drugs and electronics still occurs.