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  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    I notice that old Avatar Fandom used to equate the Fire Nation with Japan for extremely obvious reasons but in more recent years people have started saying its a mix of Japan and China (because China also bad, obviously).

    Yeah like never mind the Earth Kingdom being extremely China-coded, right down to Qing-era isolationism.

    • Maoo [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      And using blatantly Chinese names lol. Everything is Qin this Fang that.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Lake Laogai is literally Lake Reform by Labor. They couldn't have been more obvious about it.

        • VILenin [he/him]M
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          1 year ago

          Redditors don’t know literally anything about China. They couldn’t tell you if “Fang” was a Chinese or Japanese surname. Very high probability they say it’s Vietnamese or whatever the first Asian country that comes to their mind is

          • Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml
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            1 year ago

            Oh come on, this is reddit-logo, they’d say it’s some Slytherin name (“Fang” … really?) with talking to snakes and all

    • soiejo [he/him,any]
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      1 year ago

      Yes, the fire nation has japanese architecture and names, it is an small isolated island and it invaded the rest of the asia coded world to fuel its industrialism, but have you considered that they are evil and therefore chinese?

      • VILenin [he/him]M
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        1 year ago

        At this point they could remake it but literally call it “Japan” and reddit-logo would collectively go “well ackshually it’s a metaphor for GYNA”

    • D61 [any]
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      1 year ago

      Orientalism and its consequences... smedly-exhausted

    • SpookyGenderCommunist [they/them, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah the fire nation is very obviously imperial Japan, the earth kingdom is late Qing dynasty China, and the fire nation colonies are very obviously a parallel to Manchuko/Korea.

      It's not that deep. It's just pulling from history to flesh out its world building. The show has plenty of interesting things to say, but that's not among them.

      Libs trying to retroactively make the fire nation be a metaphor for China, give me the same insane vibes as evangelicals trying to make.. IDK biblical references to Babylon actually be references to modern Russia or whatever.

      • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Well cartoons, Marvel, and Harry Potter are basically the Bible for libs so it makes sense they'd try to make these kinds of dumb, half-literate comparisons

        • SpookyGenderCommunist [they/them, she/her]
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          1 year ago

          It fucking sucks too, because I'm all for thoughtfully reading texts and parsing interesting meanings and interpretations from them, to see what's being said.

          But holy shit, libs, I'm begging y'all, please stop making the most shallow, nonsense readings. No, Vladimir Putin is not Voldemort, this isn't what your highschool English class was trying to impart!

    • kristina [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      yeah its a very obvious early ww1-2 analogy on the chinese front with some siberians/inuit and a tibetan tossed in.