No state is worthy of uncritical support, but the first ten years or so were full of fascinating experiments of a scale and revolutionary character never again seen.
In terms of its socialist character, workers lost control of the means of production pretty quickly due to war communism and the fact that the Soviet of "workers, peasants and soldiers" had a way disproportionate amount of soldiers. Not surprising due to the civil war, but it's very hard to create a dictatorship of the proletariat while also giving power mostly to the people with guns.
True, but there's significant local control and participation in Mondragon, and or in the West German work councils during certain periods, or in some of the Nordic state-owned companies. If we're going to (quite rightly, IMO) make fun of libs for "dae nordic socialism?" I don't think we can fairly express much enthusiasm for Stalin-era workplace democracy.
No state is worthy of uncritical support, but the first ten years or so were full of fascinating experiments of a scale and revolutionary character never again seen.
In terms of its socialist character, workers lost control of the means of production pretty quickly due to war communism and the fact that the Soviet of "workers, peasants and soldiers" had a way disproportionate amount of soldiers. Not surprising due to the civil war, but it's very hard to create a dictatorship of the proletariat while also giving power mostly to the people with guns.
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True, but there's significant local control and participation in Mondragon, and or in the West German work councils during certain periods, or in some of the Nordic state-owned companies. If we're going to (quite rightly, IMO) make fun of libs for "dae nordic socialism?" I don't think we can fairly express much enthusiasm for Stalin-era workplace democracy.
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You should take a look at the cultural revolution then. Especially the Shanghai Commune