yeah i think citations needed is an awesome introductory pod to get people to listen to, especially if you can point them to specific ones about specific topics. like if they are just a regular lib, i thought the ones they did on Rudy Giuliani are a great way to break it down how utterly stupid he has always been, being a trump-lite before trump was even really in politics and connecting the mainstream conscious thought of how people think he handled 9/11 and what he actually did and didn't do. They already hate the fucking guy but i bet you a ton of them still say, "he was so good and handled 9/11 well, what happened to him??? " and their critiques of him during that time and connecting it to him now were solid to make them realize has always been a total fucking reactionary scumbag