“Biden and I spoke often about Vietnam and its consequences,” said Mr. Hagel, who also served with Mr. Biden in President Barack Obama’s administration as defense secretary. “How we disastrously drifted into a needless war that cost America over 58,000 lives and caused political chaos in the U.S.”
“Lessons learned,” he added. “I think those lessons have very much underpinned Biden’s foreign policy thinking and philosophy: Caution. Careful analysis.”
Yup. It’s a tragic, expensive cost. No other country could ever understand this suffering and lost. Also really love how “Vietnam” continues to be a synonym for “Vietnam war.” Biden is just another Vietnam era politician!
Mr. Trump once said that “my personal Vietnam” was avoiding sexually transmitted diseases while dating.
Note the quote talks about the loss of American lives and political chaos in the U.S. Caution and careful analysis when it’s throwing American troops into the wood chipper of war, but “let’er rip!” when it comes to other countries’ soldiers.
Oh boo hoo, the nation that was the aggressor in the war lost 58,000 soldiers. The actual victims - the nation that was attacked and their neighbors - lost like 5 million people. For this reason alone, I would say America is a bad country. We only care about the war criminals’ lives but the people who were slaughtered were innocent, and Americans do not give a single shit about their lives.
Liberals only ever talk about how many American soldiers were lost and how much money was spent on any American war (notice also the "disastrously drifted" part that conveniently elides any question of agency ). The only reason Vietnam raised such a furor was that there was still a draft and young men realized they could be next in line - having a volunteer military mostly eliminated that concern and made wars far more palatable when the soldiers dying weren't people they knew.
I'm convinced that if Afghanistan and Iraq could've been fought with entirely robotic soldiers, barely anyone in would've cared since nobody ever mentions the people who die in the current target of aggression.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/us/politics/biden-vietnam-veteran-visit.html
Yup. It’s a tragic, expensive cost. No other country could ever understand this suffering and lost. Also really love how “Vietnam” continues to be a synonym for “Vietnam war.” Biden is just another Vietnam era politician!
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Note the quote talks about the loss of American lives and political chaos in the U.S. Caution and careful analysis when it’s throwing American troops into the wood chipper of war, but “let’er rip!” when it comes to other countries’ soldiers.
I love that because it means he losted and now has 58 thousand of different venereal diseases, some only founded in pigs before.
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Oh boo hoo, the nation that was the aggressor in the war lost 58,000 soldiers. The actual victims - the nation that was attacked and their neighbors - lost like 5 million people. For this reason alone, I would say America is a bad country. We only care about the war criminals’ lives but the people who were slaughtered were innocent, and Americans do not give a single shit about their lives.
Liberals only ever talk about how many American soldiers were lost and how much money was spent on any American war (notice also the "disastrously drifted" part that conveniently elides any question of agency
). The only reason Vietnam raised such a furor was that there was still a draft and young men realized they could be next in line - having a volunteer military mostly eliminated that concern and made wars far more palatable when the soldiers dying weren't people they knew.
I'm convinced that if Afghanistan and Iraq could've been fought with entirely robotic soldiers, barely anyone in
would've cared since nobody ever mentions the people who die in the current target of aggression.