im a big fan of China's new Diplomatic Strategy :mao-clap: . .

  • CommunistFFWhen [he/him]
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    Wish Vietnam would be this awesome, they are too friendly with the US nowadays (probably because both have a vested interest in stopping China's expansion in South China Sea), just invited Mike Pompeo to a meeting to celebrate 25 years of establishing diplomatic relation last month ffs.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      China: We used the power of market forces to develop our economy so as to end crippling poverty and oppose American imperialism on its own level.

      Western leftists: Booo! BILLIONAIRES! STATE CAPITALISM!

      Vietnam: We also have billionaires and are military vassals of the US.

      Western Leftists: Yaaaaaassss! SLAY!

      • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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        The last time I posted how Vietnam was considerably worse than China I got downvoted to shit on here.

        They've fully bought into the western WTO based world order regardless of the fact that there's still a dem centralist party running things. Their hatred towards China is much deeper than their hatred towards DC which is weird as shit.

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          I think a lot of western leftists are, on some level, actually quite afraid of the military and economic hegemony of the imperial core that they live in being torn down here and now. That's why they endlessly pick away at socialist projects that are a true threat to the imperial core, while cheerleading projects that are manifestly not threats or have already failed.

          • LibsEatPoop2 [he/him]
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            there is also a fear that the so-called AES states are not actually socialist/will never be communists. We'll be stuck with state capitalism.

            • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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              Even State capitalism is a leap in the right direction

              It presumes the state is ultimately in charge of the economy and therefore subject to pressure from workers

              What we have now is the Mega corps who have risen above all governments and countries described in cyber punk novels who have zero allegiance to any state

            • Ewball_Oust [comrade/them]
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              We’ll be stuck with state capitalism.

              Actually Existing Socialism:

              Yes, the state controls the commanding heights of the economy, and yes, the state is controlled by one Communist Party... but what people often leave out of this narrative is that this one party is unlike the parliamentary parties of western liberals. This communist party is a mass party made up of a huge chunk of the population with people coming from mostly working class and peasant backgrounds.

              The magnitude and the class composition of the party makes it fundamentally different than if it was state capitalism with one elitist bourgeois party controlling the economy.

            • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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              Vietnam is hardly even state capitalist anymore, there has been mass privatization of the state owned sector and it's continuing rapidly. The same cannot really be said about China.

      • CommunistFFWhen [he/him]
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        The difference is that China doesn't have the same problem as Vietnam where they face threats from both USA and another world superpower right north of them. They're pretty much playing a balancing game, rely on both China and USA to fend off the threat the other.

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        i mean take the history into account remember the time china declared war on vietnam backing the US involvement with the fucking khmer rogue?? yeah id say theres tension

        I want to make clear im not anti china at all, i think criticism to any country should be brought up and contextualized is all