Oh God, oh shit, I said I wasn't going to do it. I said I wasn't going to start a China struggle session. Already getting flashbacks to the Discord.

But something just doesn't sit right with me and wanted to get some clarification here...

My question is this: why does China ban labor organizing/unions?

Is this yikes/intentional/actually a good thing?

(Yeah, I do know that labor unions are not always unequivocally good and sometimes they act more like middle management than as representatives of the workers... but democratizing the workplace seems like a no-brainer for any socialist project.)

Thoughts?

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      Also, we’re not having this conversation about Vietnam, which has the same system? Only official US enemies?

      Vietnam, famous historical ally of the US.

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          Yeah but would you rather American leftists endlessly complained about Vietnam?

          Also there is more reason to Vietnam's stance than just the US. Namely China's recent foreign policy against Vietnam.

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          Can we complain about VN a bit though? My understanding is that they’ve privatised way more, and opened up to foreign capital way more than China has.

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      Capitalists in America flip their shit over and any regulation at all.

      Do they not have access either?