thats the post

  • SimMs [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    one could call this childish idealism that is diametrically opposed to the material dialectical analyses that marxists like.. well, liebknecht, used to apply.

      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        likewise

        people use "authoritarianism" as a scare tactic & ham-fisted way to shut down debate... not as a worthy criticism.

        if former capitalists & their toadies have to serve jail time & do hard labor for exploiting & oppressing workers, then this isn't "authoritarianism", no more than the reality of wage compulsion is "authoritarian"

        in fact, it's much less authoritarian and is actually ethically justified because of the nature of wage relations in the old system

        workers will have to continue class struggle, it's a struggle afterall and not a PMC board meeting or personal grievance airing

          • volkvulture [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            the state & legitimizing authority is simply the state... it's like the firmament fixed & eternal

            labor is rehabilitating for capitalists who never did labor before, that's the point. it's not about punishment, it's about serving the community & removing class distinctions... i didn't say they would toil endlessly without reprieve

            it's not illegal to criticize the government, it's illegal to incite violence against the larger community

            the state protects workers from the market in the ideal social democratic model.

            the state oppresses the exploiters in the ideal socialist model