Funny, I was actually gonna put Sankara as the example instead of Allende at first, because it also fits the point I was trying to make. He didn’t purge the military and government enough and got killed for it. He was riddled with bullets by soldiers under his “friend” who had plotted a coup against him. This is the kind of scenario that Stalin had prevented by purging the military so hard it almost lost him WW2.
You’re not wrong that it isn’t magic. Authoritarian communist movements fail. “Libertarian” movements fail even more.
This is the kind of scenario that Stalin had prevented by purging the military so hard it almost lost him WW2.
almost lost him WW2.
uh
but
isn't the central and basic point of a military to defend from external enemies? I'm kinda surprised you're saying the quiet part loud there.
Also it's not particularly "authoritarian" to restructure the military, stock it with your partisans, and include ideological training alongside combat training.
Yeah like 99% of people I recognize Stalin went too far in his purges to the point where it ended up doing more damage than necessary.
That last paragraph reads like a parody of MLs. It’s not authoritarian to fire and dismiss people from their positions without a trial? Enforce state-mandated ideological training? I think those are great ideas but it doesn’t stop being authoritarian just because we do it lmao.
A hierarchical military is already authoritarian. This can be reduced by decreasing the scope and term of command, and instilling egalitarian values. Having certain social requirements for being in the military wouldn't really be anything to blink at. They have physical and mental fitness tests already, just require people not to be sociopaths and include capitalistic mindsets in the category of "sociopathic".
People get fired from their jobs unfairly across the private sector all the time. So I'd say this kind of restructure would be "not fair, but just and righteous".
Changing to something that is less repressive, more equitable, and less centered around one person or small group of people is kind of the opposite of authoritarian.
Funny, I was actually gonna put Sankara as the example instead of Allende at first, because it also fits the point I was trying to make. He didn’t purge the military and government enough and got killed for it. He was riddled with bullets by soldiers under his “friend” who had plotted a coup against him. This is the kind of scenario that Stalin had prevented by purging the military so hard it almost lost him WW2.
You’re not wrong that it isn’t magic. Authoritarian communist movements fail. “Libertarian” movements fail even more.
This is so stupid and bad faithed that i don't even know how to react lol
uh
but
isn't the central and basic point of a military to defend from external enemies? I'm kinda surprised you're saying the quiet part loud there.
Also it's not particularly "authoritarian" to restructure the military, stock it with your partisans, and include ideological training alongside combat training.
Yeah like 99% of people I recognize Stalin went too far in his purges to the point where it ended up doing more damage than necessary.
That last paragraph reads like a parody of MLs. It’s not authoritarian to fire and dismiss people from their positions without a trial? Enforce state-mandated ideological training? I think those are great ideas but it doesn’t stop being authoritarian just because we do it lmao.
A hierarchical military is already authoritarian. This can be reduced by decreasing the scope and term of command, and instilling egalitarian values. Having certain social requirements for being in the military wouldn't really be anything to blink at. They have physical and mental fitness tests already, just require people not to be sociopaths and include capitalistic mindsets in the category of "sociopathic".
People get fired from their jobs unfairly across the private sector all the time. So I'd say this kind of restructure would be "not fair, but just and righteous".
Changing to something that is less repressive, more equitable, and less centered around one person or small group of people is kind of the opposite of authoritarian.