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  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    There is no way in my mind that I can possibly frame it negatively.

    There are reasons. As in, in some cases it hurts creators because they lose money. Though to what extent that happens really depends.

    • Amorphous [any]
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      4 years ago

      No one loses money as a result of piracy. Not gaining money from a specific person is not the same thing as losing money.

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Some people who would otherwise buy it don't because they can get it for free.

        • Amorphous [any]
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          4 years ago

          Negligible amounts of people at worst. This is a non-factor, and ridiculous propaganda spread by giant corporations.

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            You can't convince me pirated films don't affect movie sales at all. It doesn't make any sense. If it didn't affect their sales at all (or even helped them as some argue), why would they even care to spread propaganda about it? I don't give a fuck if Disney or whatever makes less money and I'll keep pirating everything because it is awesome, but maybe don't pirate something by random indie developer/director who makes $5 made.

            • Amorphous [any]
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              4 years ago

              If it didn’t affect their sales at all (or even helped them as some argue), why would they even care to spread propaganda about it?

              Because they're fucking stupid and they think it does affect their sales, despite all evidence to the contrary. These companies are not made up of infallible AI superhumans, they're made up of dumb out-of-touch boomers. They fuck up all the time.

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                4 years ago

                despite all evidence to the contrary

                What evidence? Somehow I doubt all the mega-corporations whose sole purpose is making money and figuring out ways to do it better are all just completely stupid and none of them have ever figured out that piracy doesn't affect sales. Because it definitely does and the only reason it doesn't dent sales more is because there's people who don't know how to pirate stuff, people who are afraid of doing that, and people who chose not to, and all 3 groups are shrinking. It makes no sense to argue it has 0 effect on sales. How does it make sense to say that if something is also available completely free of charge, it somehow doesn't affect sales??

                • Amorphous [any]
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                  4 years ago

                  Somehow I doubt all the mega-corporations whose sole purpose is making money and figuring out ways to do it better are all just completely stupid and none of them have ever figured out that piracy doesn’t affect sales.

                  most of them dont think piracy affects sales, because it doesnt

                  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    You're saying that based on what?

                    At this point you are being incoherent. First you say there is a massive propaganda campaign by businesses, then you say most don't really believe it affects sales. If they don't think it affects their sales, why don't they just make paying optional?

                    It just makes no sense and I have no idea why people still insists it does. It seems like a weird stupid reddit myth that stuck because they would feel bad for pirating stuff if they thought it hurt sales. Something is literally available for free instead of having to pay for it, of course people will prefer free shit than paying for them. To argue that it somehow doesn't affect sales is like saying that none of the people who pirate things would buy them if piracy wasn't an option, which is such a weird argument and patently false. I guess they just don't remember the time before all the piracy websites?