I know the (probably correct) instinct is to side with Chavez, but I don't know the details of this event and ideally wanted opinions from comrades who pay closer attention to South American/Spanish politics.

Do you think Chavez had it coming? Or was he justified in his actions?

  • anthm17 [he/him]
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    I think Chavez should have called out that old shitbag for being installed by a fascist.

  • ARVSPEX [none/use name]
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    At the meeting on 10 November 2007, Chávez repeatedly interrupted Zapatero to call Zapatero's predecessor, José María Aznar, a "fascist" and "less human than snakes", and accuse Aznar of having supported a failed coup d'état aimed at removing Chávez from power. Zapatero had earlier irritated Chávez by suggesting that Latin America needed to attract more foreign capital to combat its "chronic, deepening poverty", and claimed that Chávez's policies scared investors out of Latin America.

    :chavez-salute:

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      Huh, Zapatero has come a long way. He still sucks but he attacked the EU the other day for still supporting Guaido and basically making a fool of themselves (legally).

  • Capaedia [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    There are not many people you should side against when you have to agree with the King of Spain to do so

    Chavez was a king that delivered for his people in a way his country had not seen. Spain has not had an equal.

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      Having said that, it is very important that a part of the reason is that they would not afford him the same luxury if their roles were reversed. Sometimes it is important to be respectful and sometimes the opposite

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    I logged off for a day and I come back to find simpathy for the fucking "king of Spain" in Chapo. This is terrible.

    Good lord kid, that fucking shitbag must hang, everything about him is disgusting. OFC Chavez was right, even if he was deliberately being a dick to the spanish delegation pr whatever.

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        Not simpathy simpathy, but the benefit of doubt I think. Still wanted to sound hiperbolic

    • budoguytenkaichi [he/him,they/them]
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      Asking about the details of an event while defacto siding with Chavez = Siding with a king

      Okay bud.

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        But bullying the spanish delegation was king shit from Chavez so idk, it's a weird situation

  • Saxsquatch [he/him]
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    Typical lib shit; chimping over a catchy slang and go shitting all over the carpet until their short attention is turned elsewhere

  • camaron28 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I'm spanish.

    This did become a meme, but fuck the king, this happened before his fall from grace.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      Oh so being appointed by Franco was "cool"?

      • camaron28 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Eh? Yes, according to the overall spanish population it was cool because he "disobeyed him" and "gave us " a democracy. My feelings are way, WAY more negative.

        Thankfully, his support has diminished a lot since then.

            • RNAi [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I "bruh"ed at "the people think he was cool because disobeyed Franco and gave Spain democracy"

              • camaron28 [he/him]
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                Well, that's what a lot people thought and probably still think. At least now it's less than before.

                And some of the ones who didn't think that, thought he gave us democracy during 23-F.

  • Tychoxii [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    From vague memories, Chavez was being annoying to liberal rules of decorum, in addition the king is a ripe asshole