Nazis and the like deserve it, but it's a slippery slope tho

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    No struggle session needed. We should absolutely oppose the death penalty. Even in a revolution, once you've captured your enemies, there's no more need for violence. If it's gonna be done to war criminals I won't throw a fit, but it should be something we oppose on principal.

    And in the US in particular, it's exactly what this tweet says. A way to lock up black men for a few decades and then murder them.

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      Absolutely. It's already been proven that the death penalty has no meaningful effect as a deterrent of crime, so the difference between imprisoning an evil-doer vs killing them is only the punitive satisfaction felt by the people passing the sentence, which is not a healthy attitude to foster in society. Punitivism is used in American society to justify our backwards legal system, disproportionate sentencing, and barbaric prison conditions. The sooner fetishization of punishment can be wiped from our collective consciousness, the better.

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      So in a revolution you wouldn't execute the people who are responsible immense pain and suffering and who also represent the best focal point for your enemies?

      Fuck that, they get the wall.

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        No, I wouldn't. I'd make them work. Killing them doesn't undo the pain and suffering. If they die during the course of a revolutionary war that's different, but if you've won, there's no point in killing them. Strip them of their power and wealth, make them work, imprison them, but there's nothing to gain by killing them.

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          They stripped Krupp of his power and wealth and tossed him in prison.

          He died rich and free.

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              There was no revolution, West Germany was full of nazi generals, politicians, industrialists.

              Nato too.

              • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                Then what are you even talking about? You're mad a bourgeois state didn't execute their own? He was pardoned. He was never stripped of his wealth because his family retained it. It's obviously not an applicable comparison to a revolutionary socialism.