the answer is fucking empty lmao

  • sailorfish [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    My ideal scenario is everything returned, but also loans of artefacts is greatly encouraged. Imagine if every year or two most of the museum (except for some of your own culture's artefacts ofc) looks completely different because everyone's trading with one another.

    • LibsEatPoop2 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Museums of the worlds, unite. In fact, libraries and universities of the world, also unite. The more international these institutions, the less their governments can cut their funding. I mean, corporations get to do it. Why not institutions that actually help people?

    • Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      We are at the point now where you could literally just display a hologram or some 3D projection of the artefact in a museum. Keep the originals with the people they belong to is my take.

      • sailorfish [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I personally don't believe it's the same. Seeing a painting irl at the museum is also different than seeing it on Google. But for the really unique objects it's probably preferable. Like I heard that in Iraq archaeologists have to rebury like 3000 year old pots because they have so many. That you can definitely send around the world imo haha. But the Rosetta Stone should be returned to Egypt and probably kept there for good. And definitely don't send human remains around the world for kicks.

        • Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah I think that keeping the originals in their original place helps bring back the uniqueness and tourism potential that otherwise wouldn't be there if the artefact was elsewhere, which is why I'm ok with it not looking exactly like the original thing.

          • sailorfish [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            I was gonna say "but what about poorer people who can't travel halfway across the world", but ya know what, in a world where Europe returns the shit we stole, clearly we'll also have unlimited time off and ability to travel :')

              • sailorfish [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                That's true. I mean more like, living in Europe I'd be more than happy to take the train to Turkey or Egypt (or train + boat), if I had a whole month off. A few days of chilling and reading in the train, then travelling around visiting historic sights, then a few days chilling back. It's only because of how little time off there is + how much cheaper air travel is that I'd fly. Exploring New Zealand would maybe be impossible, but a continent and a bit would be enough for me I think.

              • QatariGuattari [any]
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                4 years ago

                When I said something like that on the sub ages ago people in the know explained to me that air travel can stay as long as everything else is made carbon neutral/negative.

  • Torenico [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    First line I read:

    In September, the Belgian government announced that it would be returning the tooth of Congolese Prime Minister and Pan-African intellectual Patrice Lumumba back to the Democratic Republic of Congo.

    What in the name of fuck?

    • nohaybanda [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      This is actually done and is how it's supposed to be done. For instance the Kazanlak Thracian treasure frequently tours around the world, but is returned for exhibitions back here in Bulgaria afterwards. Most people are happy to share their culture and history with others. Euro colonizers have no fucking leg to stand on, withholding the colonized people's heritage like they do.

      Also, James Acaster has a great bit in this topic.

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I know this is a shit-posting bit, but museums without cultural appropriation would look alot like natural history or science and technology museums. You would still have art museums and random knick-knack museums, such as the Spam Museum.

    I would be definitely for this, as the history of classic industrial premodern agricultural practices and agricultural tools within the U.S. is generally lacking.

  • foxodroid [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    they could always just create high quality copies of them for educational purposes. i doubt regular viewers would care that much.

    • QatariGuattari [any]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, they could even make shit up. I wouldn't mind as long as it's exciting. History is bullshit anyway.

      • foxodroid [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        History is bullshit anyway.

        woah, woah. hold on there, as history nerd i feel personally attacked.